Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I put 25 Leica M9 images on my PAW this week (and another 16 on the 50mm comparisons), I work on an 8-core MacPro with a calibrated 30" screen. For those of us who use DRM/M8/M9 cameras can guess how long it took to tweak/push/prod/tone/adjust them into acceptable quality images. Do you want to know what I have to do to my images to make them look good (modesty aside ;-))? Not a single thing, import into Lightroom, caption and export as web site - no tones/brightness/sharpening or tweaking modification is needed..... I have never done more than 1/2 stop exposure correction or a crop to any of my M9 images. john -----Original Message----- But the other side of the editing coin is the tweaking. The processing it gets called. Photoshopping. Tone balancing. I call it lots of times "crunching". But its not good to have ones own words for things I'm sure. And doing that on a mini device to me is really a thing which contrasts greatly against the high end cameras and lenses we are using. As it really seems to indicate one don't give a rats ass about ones work. In this case the work, the final result that someone sees. But we can spend hours doing that can't we why cant see do it while sitting in a caf? staring at our compact mobile device? Because hopefully we are not total idiots. That's those of use to bother tweaking our images at all. I'm seeing plenty could not be bothered. We're looking at jpegs right out of their camera untouched by human hands or back from the scanner who does the whole roll. It would mean lifting ones pinky finger wouldn't it? Mark William Rabiner > > If your asking me I'd say it looks like you've got the thing under control. > I'm just talking about deleting a bunch of valid images while sitting > at a sidewalk caf? zipping through the images on a little hand held > screen. A darned shame if you ask me. > I'd do most of the editing where you can concentrate and have a better > viewing experience. Certainly I've sat on the subway or bus and > deleted some images off a card by looking at them in the back of my > camera. Zooming in to see if they're soft. If there's any question I'd > leave it on the card and wait till I can later see it better. > Also when I'm going through them here I can delete the total bloopers > but the important thing is to RATE them. One to five stars. The five > starred ones with a yellow tag are the ones you'd see on my Lug > gallery and maybe some other places. Even my 5x7 print box in my side bag. > > My Friday flower I posted yesterday was a sleeper. Though I shot > plenty of flowers in the past weeks none of them did much for me. I > spent some real time assessing them last night. After a half hour of > looking through all my > 2012 keyworded "Flowers" shots I found the shot I ran which was shot > in mid March at 6 AM. It only had 3 stars on it before! That I call a > sleeper as I'm super happy about the way its looking on the LUG gallery right now etc. > a shot which I didn't even know for five months was there. 17 people > have seen it and its not been up more than 24 hours I call that pretty good. > > A huge most valued part of ones photo work flo is taking the time to > see what you've got. Rating and keywording them with a lot of consideration. > > I'm betting that its not all that uncommon just like in the days of > slides in yellow boxes which get put in the closet; of people who > can't be bothered with their output. > Pictures are fun! > Sure cameras are fun but pictures are funner. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:12:20 +1200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Editing on an iPad (bus, or plus bus...) >> >> You were saying about Netbooks and I am saying that is no good for a >> Mac user (although I do have a Dell 9 running OSX 10.6.2). You seem >> to be jumping between email/web type stuff which an iPad can do to >> laptops which are bigger/heavier but can do more. I have a 17" >> MacBook Pro (as well as a >> workstation) but would not dream of taking it on holiday with me. I >> will be in Europe for 5 weeks in a couple of months, what is your >> suggestion for coping with 10s GBs of photos I expect I will take? I >> have +100Gb of SD cards, do you suggest that I buy more and keep them >> until I get home? Not download them anywhere and I may find an issue, >> or excessive dust on the sensor, or the cards have become corrupt >> or..... For me that is single point of failure and I can keep them on >> a card but also on my Air and an external drive. For a lesser time, >> or travelling light, that is where an iPad came in as per the original query. >> >> Goalposts seem to keep moving..... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> You'd have a Mac Pro Quad core back in your dorm room with a >> calibrated screen. Or maybe a full sized laptop hooked up to a nice >> big screen; and that would be me. With two extra hard disks hooked up to it. >> >> Mark William Rabiner >>> >>> And if you are a Mac user with $$$$ worth of pro-class >>> Adobe/CaptureOne etc software? >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Half the kids at Columbia and NYU appear to be using Acer's now at >>> the starbucks and better coffee shops. Its really impressive to see >>> those little laptops and know that it would be no problem to have >>> them with you all day without making you have to carry a full back >>> pack with like with a regular laptop. The keyboards are not so >>> compact as to your not able to type out papers with them. And the >>> screen seems to be >> plenty clear enough. >>> >>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> >>>> I have the Acer Aspire One. It's a tiny little thing but works great >> for >>>> travel. >>>> >>>> Tina >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Akhil Lal <alal at poly.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tina, >>>>> >>>>> Which model do you have? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Akhil >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> My tiny little Acer netbook can handle LR and PS. >>>>> >>>>> Tina >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:37 AM, John McMaster >>>>> <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I really think that you are not understanding this. Nobody is >>>>>> saying that the iPad will be their only computer, just it is >>>>>> small/light for travelling with and is there software to allow >>>>>> basic cataloguing/editing of Leica shots with it.... If using a >>>>>> full blown laptop, I like others chose a Mac Air, then there is >>>>>> no >> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> john >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm talking about maybe our photography which we sweat about >>>>>> buying exclusive Leica gear for is too important to be editing >>>>>> with trendy hand held gadgets. Maybe we can put them down for a >>>>>> few minutes and enjoy the scenery - talk the the person next to >>>>>> us. And when we get back to your hotel/motel edit our photo's on >>>>>> a laptop. On a screen where we can see our images. >>>>>> I find the never ending search for more ways to spend even a >>>>>> higher percentage of our waking hours than 80 percent at a tiny >>>>>> hand held screen ridiculous. Perfect perhaps for the Sony point >>>>>> and shoot list but for the Leica list I just want more. >>>>>> Put the damn PDA down for a minute. >>>>>> >>>>>> There seems to be a direct reverse correlation between how much >>>>>> money people spend on a camera and how much time and effort and >>>>>> money they want to spend dealing with their pictures later. >>>>>> If this was the Linhof list we'd be talking about editing our >>>>>> output on our decoder pinky rings. >>>>>> Big camera small editing screen. It all balances out perhaps. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we'd all be better off with cheaper cameras and a better >>>>>> workflo with premium software to do it with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what you are talking about? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> john >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are missing my point. Why edit on an Ipad when you can do so >>>>>>> with an IPhone? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are missing the point, Mark. This discussion is about tools >>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>> iPad. >>>>>>>> Lightroom is not available on that platform. Sometimes even a >>>>>>>> laptop is too big and too heavy, for example next week when I >>>>>>>> will be touring Jutland on bicycle for several days. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm always amazed after spending tens of thousands on the most >>>>>>>>> exquisite glass and bodies from sunny Germany we can never >>>>>>>>> find software cheap enough to edit them with. >>>>>>>>> Aperture or Lightroom are already configured for people who's >>>>>>>>> commitment to photographic wonderfulness is not exactly the issue. >>>>>>>>> What are we looking for now shareware or freeware? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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