Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/21

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: the Path
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:32:00 -0700
References: <CAF8hL-Er3Kca547oWFXyeOZxxCtPh6wArcm32nfViw17WKoD=g@mail.gmail.com> <CCAA0081.25180%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark, it's precisely that I am not brushing you off that I acknowledged
your post. Brushing you off would be ignoring what you say.

I talk to and read posts / blog from lots of pro photographers, most of
them not commercial but rather "fine art."

Some of them have flat out that one would be an idiot not to put a
copyright symbol. Others have said what you say.

So I make my decision for myself. I would never tell anyone to do what I
do, just because I do it that way. It works for me. It does not work for
you. I understand that.

If it detracts you from enjoying my photograph, then that's just the price
I pay. I take plenty of photos not enjoyable by others. So that's not much
I can do about that.

I do take input and criticism. Since no one else has complained - and of
course that statement is different from saying no one else agrees with you
because some photogs do - and that's considering on the other forums and
lists that I post this on, and it has gotten a number of kudos, I take your
advise as advisory.

If it comes a time when more people complain, then that's another story.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> A watermark I think is something either invisible or barley visible.
> Hence the name "watermark".
> This is not watermarking. This is defacing an image.
> And  "whatever works for you"  is really lets face it a brush off to the
> tune of "we disagree on that" and just short of "screw you".
>
> Whose' your favorite photographer Richard?
> Every time you see one of their images on the internet are you greeted with
> big fat typography inside the image area?
> Very seldom the case.
> Big with wedding photogs of the internet age.
>
> James Nachtwey does not deface his images with intrusive typography I just
> did a search.
> Or anyone else I can find that I ever heard of. His was the first name I
> could think of.
> For some reason they find they can continue being photographers intact.
>
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
> > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:23:44 -0700
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: the Path
> >
> > True, I just don't want to look like I am ignoring you.
> >
> > Anyway, it's true that my default positioning of the watermark on that
> > image is distracting and I moved it. Thanks for pointing it out.
> >
> > As for the greater topic of watermarking, it's been debated many times
> > already. I am a true believer of "whatever works for you" and I have
> > nothing to add beyond that.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> But we knew that ahead of time didn't we? So saying so doesn't advance
> the
> >> topic any.
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >> Photography
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:09:50 -0700
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: the Path
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for looking Mark, we do have different opinions on whether a
> >>> watermark/copyright should always be used.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sorry that it distracts you.
> >>>
> >>> I will fix its position.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> >>> rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The page appears and my eye goes right to:
> >>>> C Richard Man http//www etc
> >>>> Then it wonders off to the rest of the picture.
> >>>> What a graphic experience!
> >>>> Leave the typography off your image!! There's not reason for it to be
> >> there
> >>>> other than to ruin the image.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>> Photography
> >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:35:41 -0700
> >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: the Path
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121021-Scanned-18.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>>
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> >
> >
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> >
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-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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