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Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
From: jon.streeter at cox.net (jon.streeter)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:30:42 -0800

I am delighted to hear that you are happy with your health care.  If the 
only issue were quality of health care, the discussion would be very 
different. 

Comparing two flawed systems will not have a useful outcome.

One issue that needs to be very carefully considered is what really happens 
when government takes control of health care, not just to the health-care 
system but to the society paying for it.  Some people are fine with it; 
others are not.  

Looking at the broad sweep of history, it seems likely that we're already 
moving in the direction of larger government, higher taxes, more government 
intrusion, more people dependent on government, outright rationing of 
government services, not just health-care services, and a slowing of 
innovation and stifling of entrepreneurship.  

But who could possibly argue against "free" health care?  

As the saying goes "That which is free costs too much."




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----- Reply message -----
From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 8:26 am


As a father of two children currently living in the UK, I can only say that 
our family's experience with the NHS has been uniformly positive. And if you 
think the US "free market" system does not ration care, you live in a dream 
world.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/


YNWA




On Nov 18, 2012, at 4:25 PM, jon.streeter wrote:

> Don't get me started on socialized medicine.  Britain stopped treating 
> macular-degeneration patients a couple of years ago on the grounds that, 
> well, it's incurable.  So let's forget about trying?  What's next?  Stop 
> treating the elderly because they're going to die pretty soon anyway?  
> Your hospital fired you:  was it something you said? 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "scleroplex" <scleroplex at gmail.com>
> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
> Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 5:35 am
> 
> 
> Dear Douglas,
> My best wishes to your wife and you.
> 
> I am always sad to hear of missed diagnoses because imaging was not
> resorted to early on.
> It is an enduring fight with both insurance companies and socialists within
> medicine for whom
> the total cost to society outweighs any benefit to the individual.
> 
> The socialists running the hospital which fired me 2 years ago has
> published numerous papers
> aiming to scare people away from imaging as well as defaming the intentions
> of doctors who order MRI scans.
> My takedown of their latest fraud is here -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/6811713204/
> 
> It is very sad that the two of you have been put into this spin cycle in
> the first place.
> Never ever ever give up and do remain aggressive.
> 
> There are many breast cancer trials presently -
> http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=breast+cancer&recr=Open&rslt=&type=&cond=&intr=&outc=&spons=&lead=&id=&state1=&cntry1=&state2=&cntry2=&state3=&cntry3=&locn=&gndr=&rcv_s=&rcv_e=&lup_s=&lup_e=
> One can search by country as well.
> 
> Enjoy every single day.
> Bharani
> 
> Bharani Padmanabhan MD PhD
> Boston
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 28
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:18:37 -0000
> From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
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> 
> A very rough period for both of you, Gerry, I hope all goes well.
> 
> My wife and I are spinning through the same rinse cycle in that particular
> hellish washing machine right now. G was diagnosed in the latter part of
> August - primary breast cancer with lots of secondary tumours in her bones.
> Missed by two doctors when she went to them about her bad back. Took a 
> third
> visit and a demand for an MRI to determine the real problem. Specialist 
> team
> are great though. However, no promise of cure either, but they're hoping it
> can be controlled. I could fill several pages on the various operations and
> hospital stays, but...
> 
> Anyway she was released home yesterday three inches shorter than she used 
> to
> be, but hopefully things will pick up from now on.
> 
> Personally, photography has gone out the window in a blizzard of domestic
> duties. It's certainly an altered life.
> 
> Douglas
> 
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