Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]For two solid weeks I've been shooting with a normal zoom nikon kit lens of the pervious film fueled decade. The Nikon 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G On my D700 Straight from the dark side: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm " The Nikon 28-80mm G is a dinky 7-ounce (190g) plastic zoom with incredibly good performance." " Incredible means unbelievable. The performance of this lens is so good that no one will believe it possibly can come from a lens this cheap." Cheap means 50 bucks. " The Nikkor 28-80mm G is one of Nikon's most popular lenses of all time. Nikon made over a million and a half of these, so you will find them everywhere. Mine came attached to an N55." I bought an N55 so I could get this lens. I used the camera once. " The front element is a compound aspherical. This means Nikon glues a thin plastic corrector over another spherical glass element, giving the performance of an aspherical lens at a low price" Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > > That's what I have gathered. But as you say, expensive, and indeed heavy. > One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I hike all > over > with them. They could be with me for 10 hours in a day. I thought the > 35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current Nikon > 24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70 when I > dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month trip, so I needed > something. the 24/120 was lighter and smaller than the 24-70/2.8 > > Aram > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <grduprey at mchsi.com> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >> Aram, >> >> I will try to do it this weekend. However, I can tell you the 24/70 f2.8 >> is a real gem of a lens. Fast focussing, quiet and sharp. Also >> expensive. >> >> Cheers, >> Gene >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >> >> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N. I am considering the D600, >> but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something. In looking at >> what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I cringe at every review >> when >> they talk about the massive amount of distortion, or the edge performance. >> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx. But I >> have never noticed much with the 35/70 R. But have never done any >> objective >> tests. Hope you have the time to make this comparison. >> >> Aram >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: grduprey at mchsi.com >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >> >> Frank, >> >> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E. Can't comment on >> the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the DMR does a fair >> job >> against the D4 for an 8? year old design. Although I have not made a side >> by side comparison of images. The D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high >> ISO, and kills just about anything else in that category. The D4 is very >> waterproof, from recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I >> keep it out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any >> glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera >> interface not being too water tight. They are both heavy, pretty close >> actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4. Turn on is much >> slower with the DMR, and so is write speed. The buffer on the DMR is very >> small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot rapidly with no >> problem >> of the camera slowing down (great for bird in flight photos), although i >> would bet Doug would out do it with the DMR and a single click ;). The >> R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by >> light years in this area. I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls >> over >> those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared >> to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon DSLRs. You can >> get >> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and must >> be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get them rebuilt. The >> charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries, although they are >> not >> cheap by any measure. The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It >> locks >> on very fast and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and >> older MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but >> not >> as quite as bright as the R8 I think). MF on the DMR is getting a bit >> slow >> with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build >> for both is excellent, but would give the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to >> the >> previously mentioned motor to camera body interface of the DMR. I will go >> out this weekend and do a side by side image test of the two, probably >> with >> the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage >> lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to compare. But could do a >> comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom. Any thing I >> have not covered, that you would like to know? >> >> CHEERS, >> Gene >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >> >> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E? Using Leica >> glass, of course. >> >> >> >> Frank Filippone >> >> Red735i at verizon.net >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information