Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think you will find that most (all?) on this list who have bought a D800 model have paid extra for the D800E - as well as it being in the subject line/original question. You have lost me on the $3495.00 lens bit john > -----Original Message----- > > Also the fact that you are talking about the 800e not plain vanilla 800. > > That irony that I've spent $3495.00 on a lens but can fine hope and > happiness > with a lens on my camera I'd not be able to sell for $34.95 does not escape > me. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > > That may not sound much difference, but believe me there are few > > lenses that are up to 36MP.... have you shot with one yet? > > > > john > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> We do get lazy when all our results are 1200 pixels on the long side. > >> But I am able to view these images as they are taken which is 4256 > >> pixels with my D700. > >> > >> I've shot around 900 captures in two for me exotic locations in the > >> past two weeks with my laptop down I've just seen them for the first > >> time in the past few days. > >> I'll post one on the Lug gallery if that's possible full size 4256 > >> pixels and you can tell me what you think. > >> I'm sure at 7360 pixels across on the long side they'd reveal more. > >> Not sure it would be a deal maker or breaker or not. > >> 7360 is what the d800 gives you. > >> > >> 4256 Vs 7360 pixels > >> > >> > >> Mark William Rabiner > >> Photography > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >> > >> > >>> > >>> You may get a shock with some of your lenses if you were to shoot on > >>> a D800E...... > >>> > >>> john > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> > >>>> For two solid weeks I've been shooting with a normal zoom nikon kit > >>>> lens of the pervious film fueled decade. > >>>> The Nikon 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G > >>>> > >>>> On my D700 > >>>> > >>>> Straight from the dark side: > >>>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm > >>>> > >>>> " The Nikon 28-80mm G is a dinky 7-ounce (190g) plastic zoom with > >>>> incredibly good performance." > >>>> " Incredible means unbelievable. The performance of this lens is so > >>>> good that no one will believe it possibly can come from a lens this > cheap." > >>>> > >>>> Cheap means 50 bucks. > >>>> > >>>> " The Nikkor 28-80mm G is one of Nikon's most popular lenses of all > time. > >>>> Nikon made over a million and a half of these, so you will find > >>>> them everywhere. Mine came attached to an N55." > >>>> > >>>> I bought an N55 so I could get this lens. I used the camera once. > >>>> > >>>> " The front element is a compound aspherical. This means Nikon > >>>> glues a thin plastic corrector over another spherical glass > >>>> element, giving the performance of an aspherical lens at a low price" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mark William Rabiner > >>>> Photography > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800 > >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >>>>> > >>>>> That's what I have gathered. But as you say, expensive, and > >>>>> indeed > >> heavy. > >>>>> One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I > >>>>> hike all over with them. They could be with me for 10 hours in a > >>>>> day. I thought the > >>>>> 35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current > >>>>> Nikon > >>>>> 24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70 > >>>>> when I dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month > >>>>> trip, so I needed something. the 24/120 was lighter and smaller > >>>>> than the > >>>>> 24-70/2.8 > >>>>> > >>>>> Aram > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> From: <grduprey at mchsi.com> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM > >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >>>>> > >>>>>> Aram, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will try to do it this weekend. However, I can tell you the > >>>>>> 24/70 > >>>>>> f2.8 is a real gem of a lens. Fast focussing, quiet and sharp. > >>>>>> Also expensive. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> Gene > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > >>>>>> Central > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N. I am considering > >>>>>> the D600, but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with > something. > >>>>>> In looking at what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I > >>>>>> cringe at every review when they talk about the massive amount of > >>>>>> distortion, or the edge performance. > >>>>>> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and > xxxx. > >>>>>> But I have never noticed much with the 35/70 R. But have never > >>>>>> done any objective tests. Hope you have the time to make this > >> comparison. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Aram > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: grduprey at mchsi.com > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM > >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Frank, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E. Can't > >>>>>> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, > >>>>>> the DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design. > >>>>>> Although I have not made a side by side comparison of images. > >>>>>> The > >>>>>> D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and kills just about > >>>>>> anything else in that category. The D4 is very waterproof, from > >>>>>> recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I keep it > >>>>>> out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any > >>>>>> glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to > >>>>>> camera interface not being too water tight. They are both heavy, > >>>>>> pretty close actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the > >>>>>> D4. > >>>>>> Turn on is much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed. The > >>>>>> buffer on the DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and > >>>>>> you can shoot rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down > >>>>>> (great for bird in flight photos), although i would bet Doug > >>>>>> would out do it with the DMR and a single click ;). The R8DMR is > >>>>>> a bit quieter, noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by > >>>>>> light years in this area. I prefer the simplicity of the DMR > >>>>>> controls over those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well > >>>>>> laid out, when compared to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely > >>>>>> better than Canon DSLRs. You can get > >>>>>> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, > >>>>>> and must be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get > >>>>>> them rebuilt. The charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's > >>>>>> batteries, although they are not cheap by any measure. The auto > >>>>>> focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It locks on very fast and no > >>>>>> hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and older MF > >>>>>> Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but > >>>>>> not as quite as bright as the R8 I think). MF on the DMR is > >>>>>> getting a bit slow with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good > >>>>>> in most light levels. Build for both is excellent, but would give > >>>>>> the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to the previously mentioned motor > >>>>>> to camera body interface of the DMR. I will go out this weekend > >>>>>> and do a side by side image test of the two, probably with the > >>>>>> 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage > >>>>>> lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to compare. But > >>>>>> could do a comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor > >>>>>> zoom. Any thing I have not covered, that you would like to know? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> CHEERS, > >>>>>> Gene > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> > >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > >>>>>> Central > >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E? > >> Using > >>>>>> Leica glass, of course. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Frank Filippone > >>>>>>