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Subject: [Leica] a "pro-hobbyist" evaluates an M9 . . . ICK
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:54:33 -0800
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Indeed it's very appealing. I have proven that I can hike with 12-15 lbs (+
tripod) of gears for hours in the desert. I need to wrap my head around not
taking a single pano shot and use stitching.

That plus needing the $$, but that's true for everything.


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> For about $17,000, you can have an Alpa and 22MP (full frame) back and 70mm
> Rodenstock lens with 5deg of tilt. It would weigh about 6.5lbs with
> batteries. The camera would allow for back shift (horizontal) giving you
> coverage of a 37mm lens in 35mm format.
>
> M9 approx. 6k
> 35 'lux approx 4k
> Another 'lux lens approx 4k
> Weight maybe 3-4lbs with batteries.
>
> For those who don't hike horse-killing trails (where every gram counts),
> but go on 5-10 mile hikes, it's pretty darn light, sharp as a tack, and 3
> shots for stitching at 22MP each, using 9micron pixel sights. Price wise
> about the same as an M9 with 3 lenses (or less).
>
> The hard part is finding a Leaf or Phase 22MP back that someone wants to
> part with!
>
> No street shooter but a heck of a landscaper's kit...
> Best,
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I schlepped my hasselblad and a couple of lenses around Colorado once,
> > and
> > > it wasn't a problem. ...
> >
> > The Rollei SL66 is built like a tank; the tilt mechanism is probably
> > part of what adds weight over the Hasselblad.  So, when I went to a
> > TLR and could have an entire outfit, tripod included, that weighed in
> > at 5 lb., that made a believer out of me in terms of what I wanted to
> > carry and what image quality I could get from such an outfit.  The
> > Bronica RF 645 took over from the Rollei TLR because of the wide angle
> > and ability to hold Tech Pan flat.  (My stash of frozen Tech Pan 120
> > is going to go on eBay soon.)  The Canon 5D2 convinced me that full
> > frame digital could do what I needed, but the Canon outfit was too
> > heavy, and their wide angles really are not top notch (the 24 Tilt
> > Shift is special, however).  The M9 simply did a better job for less
> > weight.
> >
> > As an aside, let me describe Sheppard Pass, the last trip for the full
> > SL66 outfit.  It starts in Owens Valley at 5000 ft.  On the way up to
> > the 12000 foot pass, there was a dead horse on the trail when I did
> > the trip.  On the other side, at the Muir Trail, the Sheppard Pass
> > trail is marked with the skull of a horse.  It is literally a killer.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Adler
>
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>



-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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