[Leica] IMG: TMZ 3200 NOW 6400 AND HIGHER?

[kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)]

Actually, my recollection is that was true of most films, especially color.
I remember in a seminar Cole Weston saying how he was sweating out getting
his 8x10 chromes processed right away in Paris.  Not an issue with digital
now, I hope, Thanks Be for that one.

Ken

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Deveney
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Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: TMZ 3200 NOW 6400 AND HIGHER?

Absolutely Ted, she was right.  The other thing about TMZ is that the latent
image was very unstable, so you also had to develop it as soon as possible
after exposure for best results.  When I shot it in Africa and it was a
couple of months before I could develop it, the results were much grainer
than when I shot it and developed it the same day.

Marty

On Saturday, 2 March 2013, wrote:

> Tina Manley SHOWED:
> Subject: [Leica] IMG: TMZ 3200
>
>
> Hi Tina,
> That TMZ-3200 Looks like some I had in the freezer some years ago and 
> unfortunately Irene had buried it under some frozen foods she had bought.
>
> About 8 months later I discovered it, used it and the grain was the 
> size of house bricks! :-(
>
> I enquired of our Kodak rep....... a very astute gal with almost every 
> technical question you could ask and she could answer right off the 
> top of her head without referring to anything.
>
> Much to my surprise she said... "3200 film should be used as soon as 
> possible, don't have it hanging around for months, particularly if you 
> should push it a stop or two."
>
> Why?" I asked.
>
> SHE.. responded, "Well it's such a sensitive film that unless you use 
> it as soon after purchase, the radiation levels of Planet Earth will 
> begin to fog it. Or start a form of exposure. That actually begins the 
> day the film is manufactured whether the film is in a freezer or 
> wherever? The effect is going on all the time due to radiation levels 
> of the planet! So if you're working with it always get it exposed and
souped as soon as you can."
>
> So crew, given Tina's grainy photo triggered that bit of long ago 
> KODAK conversation from many years past, I wondered  has anyone ever 
> heard of that before?  I can see it as a possible with 3200 TMAX, but 
> have always been left with a bit of a question mark how bad it might 
> get and whether my "what appeared super grainy size images were actually
due to what she said?
> Or just pushing it to 6400? And or maybe? A bad moment of film souping?"
>
> Thoughts and or answers? Of course it's an almost waste of time 
> question now most are shooting digital. It's purely a curiosity driven 
> question aat this point? Oh and of course, I exposed all film with a Leica
"M?" camera.
> ;-)
> thanks,
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>
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>
>  Here is why some of my scans are so grainy.  This is TMZ 3200 as you 
> can
>> see by the film canisters that Junior is holding.
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/image/**149007766<http://www.pbase.com/image/149
>> 007766>
>>
>> The kids love empty film canisters and use them for soldiers and cars and
>> all kinds of toys that they invent.   As long as I can keep the exposed
>> film dry, if I don't have to carry the canisters back home, that's fine!
>>
>> Besides the obvious grain, C&C greatly appreciated!!
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
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