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Subject: [Leica] My last aftermarket battery just died
From: henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:22:05 -0700
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That's my experience as well. I'll pay Leica for their expertise in lens 
design, but not their expertise in battery packaging. Yes, I've had some 
third party duds, but most are as good as the OEM ones.

Henning



On 2013-03-14, at 2:01 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I pulled (dead) Leica and third party batteries apart they were
> identical internally apart from the brand of cells used.  The "additional
> security" is a myth.
> 
> Marty
> 
> On Thursday, 14 March 2013, Cedric Agie wrote:
> 
>> There is another point to consider.
>> 
>> Original batteries, such as those from Leica, have one or more
>> security systhems embedded in the battery. This technology is
>> inherited from the experience with the cellphone batteries and all
>> sorts of games
>> Such batteries and chargers are protected against most hasards i.e..
>> short circuit, heath, overcharge etc. If something happens inside the
>> battery there is signal that goes to the charger.  This also regulates
>> the load proces. If you look closely there is a 3rd connection between
>> both battery and charger.
>> 
>> LiH etc cells are better than NiCad with a lot of advantages, but also
>> with a less interesting carachteristic; it can burn and/or explode.
>> These burns can be severe either for you or your camera. In some cases
>> a good charger and battery will simply stop charging if the
>> temperature goes too high or blow an inside fuse in case of shortcut.
>> 
>> The choice is yours.
>> 
>> Cedric
>> 
>> 2013/3/14 Piers Hemy <piers.hemy at gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
>>> Precisely what I thought, Herb.
>>> 
>>> Piers
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org <javascript:;>
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy <javascript:;>=gmail.com at 
>>> leica-users.org<javascript:;>]
>> On Behalf Of
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> Sent: 14 March 2013 06:10
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] My last aftermarket battery just died
>>> 
>>> If you paid $10 each and you went through a dozen, then you just broke
>> even
>>> vs the $120 battery. If you paid $15, which is more likely, then you
>> would
>>> have been ahead with the $120 battery. No brainer: get the genuine one.
>>> 
>>> P.S. I had to pay $135, if I remember correctly. Where do you get them
>> for
>>> $120?
>>> 
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org <javascript:;>
>>> 650-326-8204
>>> 
>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I had about a dozen M8/M9 batteries that I bought from the aftermarket
>>>> channel. cheap and worked just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But the last battery just died...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Price for a genuine battery is about $120.. A clone is $15 or less...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am wondering what to do?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> 
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net <javascript:;>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Henning Wulff
henningw at archiphoto.com






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