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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Family shots
From: topoxforddoc at btinternet.com (Charlie Chan)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:36:29 +0100
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Dear Ric, Gene and Cedric,

Many thanks for your really helpful comments. Maybe I?ll try this a bit 
more. It?s certainly different to using available light. It?s a bit of a 
challenge, but it?s good to be able to try something new. This is certainly 
cheaper than camera GAS.

Thanks

Charlie

Charlie Chan
www.charlie-chan.co.uk



On 2 Apr 2013, at 11:12, Cedric Agie wrote:

> Hi there on the other side of the Channel,
> 
> Since the age of 13 my son, now also 18, showed the same behaviour. This
> reassures me and thank you for the technical infos.
> 
> I don't have a DMR yet but I happen to have the same studio lights. Be
> careful because they are real bazookas. It's not easy to keep so many kids
> together in a studio, in front of a lens and take several good and sharp
> shots. Your photos show a good beginning.
> 
> In general you can go high key with kids but not so with adults and
> certainly not with elderly people. Going digital recently I soon learned to
> underexpose a little bit. With the Leica R-8 & 9 you have the chance to
> have a flashmeter in your camera. Go for the faces but keep details in the
> highlights and in the shadows. Not easy with digital photography. This
> often gives a problem with ladies who don't like to see their wrinkels. So
> go for very soft light.
> 
> If  you are in a hurry inside a building with one person, there is an easy
> trick to begin with. Place your subject next to a window (not from behind)
> in a (withe) corner with a reflector on the other side or a softened far
> away low power  flash. Some experienced photographer call this the Rembrand
> portrait.
> 
> You can do the same in a studio. Put the person in a (white) corner and a
> softened flash on its side, not in front. Do the same with a black screen
> or something else, not too close, behind the subject. Gradually change the
> angle of the flash between the side and the front. You can then add and/or
> change the direction of  a second and even a third flash. Never use them
> with the same power and don't put them at the same distance. I prefer semi
> translucent umbrellas in most cases. Or use the normal umbrellas and add a
> second semi translucent umbrella in front of it. The Elinchroms do have a
> second  fitting for this. Or use thin withe fabrics or translucent tracing
> paper, because most studio flashes are very harsh, especially for 
> portraits.
> 
> With digital you can learn really fast and also in a studio.
> 
> Good luck and have a lot of fun,
> 
> Cedric
> 
> 
> 2013/4/1 Charlie Chan <topoxforddoc at btinternet.com>
> 
>> It is rare that I have my nephew and niece visiting, esp when my oldest
>> son, Alex, is back from Cambridge. So I decided to have a go at shooting
>> them with a pair of Elinchrom 500 strobes. Definitely not my normal thing.
>> In fact, this is the first proper portrait session that I have done with
>> lights. So, please forgive me if these are a bit hackneyed. Anyway they
>> were all game for a laugh (except my 18 year old daughter, Coco, who won't
>> go anywhere near me when i have camera). Lots of Easter Eggs certainly
>> helped fuel the cocoa sustained frenzy!
>> 
>> http://topoxforddoc.zenfolio.com/p218878823
>> 
>> DMR with 50 Summicron at ISO100
>> 100cm Elinchrom Octa high up and just to the right
>> Second EL500 pointed at the background
>> Reflector from the bottom left
>> 
>> Please feel free to chip in. I've got loads to learn about studio 
>> lighting.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> 
>> Charlie Chan
>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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