Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I will just let the observation stands - there's no Asian and few African Americans in his vast collection of photos (that we know of). Whether it's a subject worth analyzing or not is another matter. Probably not. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote: > Well, he certainly had a lot of skill, and what we see is the result of a > lot of editing. We don't know for a fact who or what everything was that he > actually photographed. Ok, ok; I know ... same difference ... move the > argument over to what we actually see after edits. I don't understand the > kind of bias you're hinting at. If someone shoots cowboy shows, which he > did, would that make him biased against antique fairs? I also don't think > of criticism as a form of acknowledgement or recognition. > It's like "Criticize me!! That way I'll at least know you know I'm > here." Good criticism is way more than this. Poor people and rich people > don't go in for this sort of attention and neither do I, although I'm > neither. > > -Lew Schwartz > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com > >wrote: > > > Lew, may be it's a form of approval,... or may be it is a form of color > > blindness. Come on, during the long period he photographed, from 40s to > > 80s, there were no interesting, even people to be critical about, of > other > > races that he had met or seen? > > > > We are not talking someone who takes 100 pictures or even 1000 pictures a > > year. In that case, what do you expect type of thing. He takes 100 > pictures > > a day easily. If you roam the streets of LA, or NY etc. and take that > many > > pictures, it takes skills not to take pictures of people of colors or > > Asians... > > > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure I entirely understand Richards remarks. Winogrand never > > > represented himself to be a news photographer, although he undoubtedly > > took > > > assignments and was presented to the public under that rubric. I've > > always > > > thought of him as highly critical of the society he photographed. His > > > omissions may be a form of approval. > > > > > > -Lew Schwartz > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Phil Swango <pswango at att.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Richard Man wrote: > > > > > Winograd is not my favorite street artist, mainly because it's the > > same > > > > > type of photos he shot. For example, the periods he covered > included > > > the > > > > > civil rights movement and of all the hundreds of photos in the > show, > > > > there > > > > > are may be 3-4 photos where African American are present, and as > far > > as > > > > we > > > > > can tell, exactly one photo where there is an Asian present - and > > only > > > > > because she was pretty and had goofy hair. > > > > > > > > Interesting thoughts Richard. We just had a lecture in the local > > museum > > > > about race, representation and photography. There's also an > > interesting > > > > new book in which an AA female photographer shoots her white friends > > and > > > > muses on whether and how race may figure into reading the photo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/some-of-her-best-friends-are-white/ > > > > > > > > If the link doesn't work look up Myra Greene. The book is "My White > > > > Friends." I've ordered it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Phil Swango > > > > 307 Aliso Dr SE > > > > Albuquerque, NM 87108 > > > > 505-262-4085 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto