Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]nathan, we adobe, u actually need to download and install the software on you own box, it does not work in the cloud!!, it has access to adobe servers and u can use it for storage etc. the software needs internet connection at least once a month to validate the account. one of the biggest reason adobe did this, was piracy and of course constant predicable revenues. all i can say thank god lightroom is not part of it now, too many manufactures use adobe as their standard software package (leica, hasselbald, samsung,...). for now cs5 works for me, but i think when i upgrade my computer next year, i will get the photoshop subscription. i do like the fact that u can install on multiple computers and with saving to the cloud, u can work on your stuff almost anywhere!! On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>wrote: > I am no expert, but basically Richard is right: you never "buy the > software", you buy a license to use the software (I am talking about normal > commercial software here, not open source or shareware or similar pinko > stuff). In fact there are court cases on both sides of the Atlantic about > whether you can resell downloaded software (and music and film) to someone > else as long as you ensure it is erased from your own computer(s). The > jurisprudence in this area is still developing. > > I think companies provide free updates of the OS due to enlightened > self-interest, since most updates have to do with security. > > I can see why they like the subscription model: all users are > automatically on the same version, no installation on the user end--all > this probably adds to less resources needed for tech support. And of course > you have the revenue stream. > > I will not be joining this, partly because of the price, and partly > because I dislike being dependent on being connected. Of the airlines I fly > regularly, only one (Norwegian) provides free wifi on board its planes, for > example--and I like to be able to work on my pics when travelling. Just one > of many reasons why CS3 will be the last Photoshop I will buy, although I > will consider upgrading Lightroom (I am currently on version 3) as long as > it remains available the old-fashioned way. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > > YNWA > > > > > > > > > > On May 8, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Richard Man wrote: > > > Software companies almost never sell you copies of software, only a > license > > to use their software. > > > > In the "old" model, you purchase a license to use on one machine, with 30 > > days) warranty that it will run, well, actually most EULA don't even > > warrantee that. There is almost no promise to ever give you updates, free > > or otherwise. If you have W2K and upgrade to Windows XP and it doesn't > > work? Well, too bad. Your license does not cover that. Most companies are > > more reasonable than their EULA would suggest, but there is no guaranty. > > > > In this "new" model, you purchase a "subscription" to the license. When > the > > subscription runs out (i.e. you stop paying), your license is no longer > > valid. > > > > Brave new world. Although I'd think most (powered and most as in > 50%) > > photographers have moved to Lightroom already. Unfortunately, there are > > usually a few things that most of us need Photoshop for. > > > > May be a better model is "per hourly subscription rate" :-) Most of the > LR > > users who also use PS probably only use PS less than an hour each month, > so > > that's probably $10/hr :-) > > > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net > >wrote: > > > >> Other than ownership vs right to use, is their some difference that > would > >> affect the outwardly predatory practice that Adobe is using? > >> > >> > >> Frank Filippone > >> Red735i at verizon.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Le 8 mai 13 ? 01:17, Frank Filippone a ?crit : > >> > >>> You bought the OS, the OS supplier gives you updates for free... via > >>> the WEB.. > >> > >> > >> You don't buy an OS, you pay once for the right to use it temporarily or > >> permanently - I think the diference was in the small print which no one > >> reads. > >> Now you just realize how much you were wrong. > >> Let's call the expert in, Nathan please. > >> > >> Ph > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad