Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/19

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Subject: [Leica] Fuji choice and Leica
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:03:38 -0700
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I tend to agree with Steve. They seem to be producing next to nothing (if
not nothing at all). My guess is the few trickling out are the ones with
the strap lug fixed whose original owners were either given some of the
original, post strap M's or who wanted a refund.
Something serious has happened, IMO, and production has simply ceased until
they figure it out. Good that they are not sending out until right; bad
that they set expectations and aren't saying why expectations aren't being
met.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
wrote:

> There are a few people who have used the camera quite heavily for the past
> few months, the only thing I have heard is about the white balance....
>
> Of course it should not have happened, but at least Leica put their hand
> up in public and admitted it and also covering any damage to camera or lens
> resulting from it. It only seems to be some of the original production run
> so either a person or a component was at fault, the plus and minus of hand
> assembled cameras ;-)
>
>  I don't think Nikon have ever admitted to problems with the LHS AF points
> in the D800 range, they will fix it if you send the camera to them. Same
> for dirty sensors on the D600? X-100 lens assemblies...
>
> ;-) john
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > On May 19, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at 
> > btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The two dealers I regularly use have neither had any cameras yet, and
> can
> > get no info from Leica as to when they may receive their first.
> > > I have placed an order but have pretty well decided to cancel it for
> the time
> > being.
> > > The Fuji (which I bought at about the time I ordered the M) is getting
> the
> > job done and the M saga is very much worse than the M9 in my case so, as
> an
> > engineer, I am somewhat concerned that they are having major
> > manufacturing difficulties, something like parts supply or component
> quality
> > variation.
> > > Getting one in 12 months may be a better choice for me.
> >
> >
> > I have heard that the problem is far graver than strap lugs being loose
> (which
> > they could accomplish 75 years ago), this is an $8000 camera guys...
> >
> > (for pete's sake)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > > FD
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 May, 2013, at 03:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Friday I was actually within 100 metres of 3 M's ( the 2 dealers
> here are
> > only 5 doors apart) so I can claim to have actually have seen one (demo
> not
> > for sale at the boutique) and each dealer had one awaiting customer pick
> up.
> > Oz actually only got these first ones two months after USA, Europe, Japan
> > and probably Outer Mongolia for all I know. I suppose that means they are
> > post strap lug fault production. This is getting old waiting though. My
> original
> > order was six months ago.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Geoff
> > >
>
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-- 
Bob Adler


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