Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Tina and Bob, Many thanks for the shorthand review of the M240. It is really helpful. Having seen the issues about shutter lag on live view and the EVF, there's no way i would use the M240 and an EVF instead of my DMR. The balance of the M240 with something like a 180 cron would be challenging. I do like my Ms. I like my M9 a lot. But the DMR is something else. Best wishes, Charlie Charlie Chan www.charlie-chan.co.uk On 2 Jun 2013, at 00:14, Tina Manley wrote: > That's all very helpful, Bob. My main reason to get a 240 would be to use > my R lenses with focus peaking. If that is not possible, I will stick with > my M9 and MM and use the R lenses on my DMR until my eyes completely give > out. I could use the extra money for a new computer. > > Thanks!! > > Tina > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Friday I went to Samy's in Los Angeles where they had just received >> their demo M. I was able to play with it for about 1-1/2 hours using my >> lenses and SD card, but just inside the store in the Leica section. What I >> noted was: >> >> Good: >> 1. The smoothness of the shutter is wonderful. No "kick" back on my >> finger, like in the M8 and to a lesser degree the M9. Buttery, quiet and >> no >> noticeable lag. EXTREMELY impressed! >> 2. The averaging (matrix) metering mode works very well. I had it on the >> classic mode for some shots and the highlights were blown because there >> was >> a lot of black wall which metered gray. On the new "Advanced" mode it >> figured this out and I got a decent histogram. >> 3. The rangefinder is crisp and accurate. Lines were white for mine and >> easy to see/use. >> 4. The files are bigger (duh) >> 5. The shutter response time, when not using live view/focus peaking, >> seemed faster than the M9. It was certainly noticeably quieter. >> 6. With live view, when you turn the lens to focus, the live view goes >> to >> the same magnification level (0, 5X or 10X) that you last used. >> 7. Live view, through the EVF, does show depth of field. >> 8. Nice LCD screen on the back, though I would not use it except to see >> the histogram... >> 9. The camera feels very nice in your hands. Definitely a Leica M. The >> thumb ridge is great. >> 10. Base plate is much sturdier; not tinny as on the M9. >> >> Not so good: >> 1. Focus peaking did not work for me on eyes. For portraits of non >> moving >> folks, you can use live view to see your focus on the eyes, >> etc.(especially >> magnified 5 or 10X) and also see your DOF, but no focus peeking indicators >> showed where the focus was. >> 2. Live view does not magnify after turning the lens until after a very >> noticeable pause; my guess is about 1 second. A real delay... >> 3. There is a noticeable shutter release lag when using live view. VERY >> noticeable. From what I've read, the shutter is open for live view and >> must >> close and then fire. In rangefinder mode, as noted above, there is >> absolutely no lag. >> 4. ISO above 1600 (even 1/2 stop more at 2000) is not useful. Just a >> really big difference between 1600 and 2000 to the dark areas showing >> large >> blotches. >> 5. I had trouble finding how to set EV (I usually shoot at -1/3 just to >> ensure I don't blow highlights). Probably my lack of knowledge of the menu >> system (which has changed), so most likely not the camera's fault... >> >> Conclusion: This camera is every bit an M with minor improvements FOR ME >> over the M9, the biggest of which is the sensor size. Live view seems to >> be >> made for movie making (which I did not test and would not use) or >> landscapes. Not for street/family shooting. The shutter is sweet. The ISO >> performance minimally improved. Though I was excited about the camera, >> especially using Live View with focus peeking to shoot my family and >> street >> work, it basically is not usable, IMO, for that. The larger sensor does >> nothing for me as this is not my landscape camera. Most likely when my >> number comes up on various dealers' lists to buy the M, I won't. >> >> Of course I have specific uses for my Ms. For my needs, the improvements I >> saw did not warrant the cost of a replacement for my M9. >> >> Then I tested a Monochrom... I'm trying not to think about what I >> experienced to save my marriage... >> >> Just thought I'd pass this along. Happy to answer any questions. >> Bob >> >> -- >> Bob Adler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information