Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Raw is for people who give a damn. Frankly my dear you have to give a damn. On 6/5/13 10:18 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote: > > Jayanand commented: > >> Sometimes I feel RAW is for us obsessive masochists! (-: > > Jay, > You are probably correct. I sometimes feel like I need to improve the RAW > image, just so I can say I contributed to the process. I hate to feel that > I am only allowed to present an image that was fashioned by software alone. > > YMMV > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji XE-1 > > >> Early on, practically all of us who were shooting Fuji X-Pro 1 systems >> (Howard, Steve, Gerry, B.D., myself) were shooting in JPG fine because the >> output from the Adobe Camera Raw converter tended to smear the colours, >> and >> Silkypix was/is just unusable. Adobe, however, have got better and better, >> and Gerry alerted me a few months ago about an Camera Raw update that had >> solved the problem, and I see no problems at all nowadays in shooting RAW >> and processing in Lightroom. The whole problem of the X series and RAW >> converters is just a myth as of today. I only shoot RAW nowadays... >> >> I can understand why one would want to shoot only in JPG fine, though, it >> simplifies photography a lot, that is, of course, if you are confident >> enough of your ability, as well. (-: >> >> It is hardly surprising that a person who has distilled his likes and >> dislikes to the extent that Jim Hughes has, and with his experience, would >> choose the simpler option. >> >> Sometimes I feel RAW is for us obsessive masochists! (-: >> >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Jim Hughes is the former editor of Camera 35, from which I learned an >>> awful lot of what I know. And also Camera Arts. So I suspect he knows >>> what >>> he's doing. >>> >>> Here's what I find really interesting. This guy edited two seminal photo >>> magazines and wrote books on Gene Smith and Earnst Haas. He edited the >>> writing of master craftsmen like David Vestal. So what was his film RF >>> gear >>> before he went digital? Not a Leica. He prefers a Canon 7 and LTM Canon >>> lenses. And he still wants to use those lenses on a modern mirrorless >>> camera. He says they see like he sees. Food for thought. >>> >>> I'm a firm believer in RAW myself. But many users of Olympus E-series >>> cameras who have found that the Olympus JPGs are so good that they can't >>> do >>> any better processing the RAWs. This of course assumes that they've >>> gotten >>> all the umpteen parameters set just right before they take the shot. >>> >>> There was not a lot of RAW support for the Fuji X-E1 and X-Pro1 when they >>> came out, so some people got used to shooting JPG. It was that or use >>> SilkyPix. :-) >>> >>> --Peter >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have the XE-1 on my list, and also noted that. Seems strange that he >>>> would settle for an in-camera jpg conversion. >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=c**ox.net <http://cox.net> at >>> leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Bob >>>> Adler >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 5:56 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji XE-1 >>>> >>>> Except he doesn't shoot raw! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nice review: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://theonlinephotographer.**typepad.com/the_online_** >>> photographer/2013/06/fuji-x-**e1-the-keeper.html<http://theonlinephotographe >>> r.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/06/fuji-x-e1-the-keeper.html> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See >>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman >>> /listinfo/lug>for >>> more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/