Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Because this is a different class of much more compact camera. Personally what I think Leica should be more about. Barnack sized cameras not inflated M's. They're really about half the size of M's it seems to me. And weight. And near pocketable or pocketable. If it was not for the zoom. On 6/11/13 2:36 PM, "Christopher Williams" <zoeica at mac.com> wrote: > Oh just go create images! > > Leica has a M-E,Monochrom & M 240. Fucking hell that's a pretty good line > up. > Who cares about the rest? > > > > Chris Williams > www.zoeicaimages.net > www.zoeica.com - blog > Washington DC & New Orleans > 504-231-6261 > > > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> Steve Huff mentioned in the first thing that he'd rather go out and get a >> Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 full frame for roughly the same bucks. >> I certainly agree and I'm sure that opinion will end up being the >> consensus. >> Tests will show the pix coming out of the Sony wiping the smaller format >> but >> same priced Leica right out of the water. >> >> Also the issue is which camera LOOKS more elegant >> And I think its a tossup. >> The Zeiss in front of the Sony is not so compact but is overwhelmingly >> GORGEOUS. As is its inner design. Making us feel as we could take a great >> shot of ANYTHING. with the images would prove us right. >> The glass in front of the Leicas is certainly not going to appeal to >> connsiouers of any ilk. And the people with the big bucks are gonna wanna >> know what the people in the know in the photo department think before the >> pick out their latest classy photo neckwear. A lot of them. >> >> So we're going to have the company which makes the walkmans winning the >> compact camera war with the company which makes the best cameras. Leica. >> A huge thing for Sony. A huge not so good thing for Leica. >> >> Shooting with the Sony would be a far more exciting and rewarding >> experience. >> And this kind of thing should belong to Leica. >> Its like coming in second on purpose and having your pretending you won >> speech all written out ahead of time. >> "don't look at the camera behind the mirror" >> >> >> On 6/11/13 9:41 AM, "Ric Carter" <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote: >> >>> sounds like a replay of my Leica Z2X >>> >>> which feels decidely unLeica >>> >>> ric >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Mark I totally agree. What are they thinking? >>>> >>>> A total let down. >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-06-11, at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Putting a zoom on an X does not as Leica specifically stated put it >>>>> between >>>>> an M and an X. >>>>> it put it between an X and a Panasonic Lumix. >>>>> Super bad thinking on the part of Leica. >>>>> Not a step up from an X but two steps down. >>>>> The stock holders will be happy about the lowering of the Brand. >>>>> >>>>> Whenever the classic point and shoots, Contax T, Nikon T, Ricoh GR, >>>>> Minox >>>>> 35 >>>>> finally sold out with a zoom model which of course brought in the big >>>>> bucks >>>>> from the idiot crowds they were widely ignored and reviled by the >>>>> connoisseurs; it was not good news. >>>>> A fast unobtrusive and elegant camera became slow and bulgy. >>>>> It was "time to make some money and pay some bills" news. >>>>> >>>>> Instead of a drum roll Leica needed to sneak this out with a whisper. >>>>> While >>>>> everyone was on vacation. >>>>> >>>>> ... A few of the famous film super compact 35's never came out in zoom >>>>> versions. The Rollei 35 was one and I think also the Minox 35. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/11/13 9:01 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Very sad. >>>>>> They said it would be an M. >>>>>> but instead its an idiot X. >>>>>> for people with more money than sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> They will look like they are shooting with a real Leica. >>>>>> >>>>>> Normally a thing rushed out like this I'd not believe for a second but >>>>>> the >>>>>> fact that he's giving the UPC code of the camera as 799429184308 and >>>>>> the >>>>>> UPC >>>>>> code and price and code of all the accessories it does sound like a >>>>>> non >>>>>> rumor. But a leak. And I'm fond of leaks now having seen the Wikileaks >>>>>> movie. >>>>>> Or they are good at making up lists UPC numbers. >>>>>> I'm crossing my figures its a sick joke or a bad dream. >>>>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/