Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Agree. I expose the histogram the same for digital no matter the format: as far to the right with no clipping unless intentional. This agrees with both yours and Tina's statements. Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I had read that somehow the medium format digital guys do not expose for > the > highs. Cant see why. I certainly don't change my technique exposure wise > when I shoot medium format film. So as a totally non experienced medium > format digital guy I just have to bide my time as wait till I find out the > mystery if there is one. > > > On 6/23/13 6:28 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Agree. My default is to have EV set at -1/3. With some platforms you can >> set >> what pure white is on the in camera histogram. True for the new M240. >> Instead >> of clipping showing at 255/255/255 you can set it for 250 or 253 or >> whatever. >> >> There was a big stink about ETTR (expose to the right) awhile ago started >> by >> Michael Riechman and Co. I understood the logic and math, but many people >> started exposing their histograms and highlights were blown. I remember >> one >> fellow who was showing prints with totally blown cloud centers. He >> thought his >> images were fantastic because he had more information to work with >> because he >> had really exposed to the right... >> >> So rarely clip is my working mantra: only with bright reflections >> intentionally. Shadows have tons more to recover... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes and that's why if what I just clicked is something I really want to >>> have >>> come out I check the back of the camera to make sure the high tones are >>> fully there. Check the histogram even. If not I set the exposure over >>> ride >>> down a bit more and click it again. >>> If I click on something in which I totally don't care then maybe I wont >>> check it as I'm walking away. And have regretted doing that. >>> As why I'm I shooting it if I don't care? Best to trust our instincts >>> I err on the side of under exposure for sure. >>> Have great luck in bring up stuff out of the darks. Not the opposite.. >>> >>> >>> On 6/22/13 11:52 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not disagreeing with you, but with colour digital it is unusual to >>>> have >>>> all three colours blown out so some recovery is possible. A blown >>>> highlight >>>> on >>>> a Monochrom is pure white with no tonal recovery, but I have not found >>>> it a >>>> huge issue in practice. >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> Another thought which caught me on his thing is he says the camera is >>>>> not >>>>> tolerant of over exposure. >>>>> I'm wondering what camera was he using which WAS tolerant of over >>>>> exposure? >>>>> As as far as I know all digital cameras are very similar to shooting >>>>> slides. >>>>> You don't over expose them. You place your high tones carefully and >>>>> let the >>>>> dark tones fall where they may. >>>>> A statement like "this camera is not tolerant of over exposure" makes >>>>> me >>>>> thing this is not a guy who has gotten into digital really. >>>>> I read him widely during the film era. I hope he's really making the >>>>> transition. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/21/13 10:32 AM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Great review by Mason Resnick! I agree with almost everything he says >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Tina >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Greg Rubenstein <gcr910 at >>>>>> gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> PDN finally got around to it, I guess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.pdnonline.com/gear/Camera-Review-Leica- >>>>> 8353.shtml?utm_sour >>>>>>> ce=Silve >>>>> rpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=41858219&utm_term=96312&ut >>>>> m_conten >>>>>>> t= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greg Rubenstein >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photography >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information