Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/27

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Subject: [Leica] AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:23:47 -0700
References: <CDF21296.C488%mark@rabinergroup.com>

On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> I think have have said the M240 in particular is going to be a very
> successful camera based and my many decade experience in photography. 
> Doing,
> talking and reading. And on a professional level.
> 
> Seeing results on this list helps but I can also see results other places
> and see the specs and have common sense as well as a expert sense.. And 
> have
> ten years experience in digital photography. (almost to the day, 7/2/2003)
> And have been on this list at least a decade before I ever saw your name in
> print on it I remember it like it was yesterday. The bottom line being I
> don't have to defend my right to express my opinions to your anything on 
> the
> LUG as I have been for 14 years to you or anybody. Barkeeper excepted,.
> 
> My next post may be on the Canon Pellix made in the 1970's with a special
> pellicle concept which seems to be coming back.
> After that I may say a thing or two about where I think Sony is heading in
> the camera department with its Zeiss glass which seem to be really pricy
> Zeiss glass and use of pellicles in what they call SLT technology.
> After that I may talk about how I'd rater be shooting with a Leica IIIG
> instead of the Leica IIIF I have and had dominated my Leica film shooting 
> in
> the past years well over my M system.
> 
> Which is really not the point at all its really a red herring what gets in
> everybody's craw is that I find the  Fuji rangefinder to be lacking in
> comparison for the obvious reasons that it is a
> Cropped camera format.

but for years you used that format and did not seems so contemptuous of 
it....

now that software and processor advances make it even more desirable you 
express an utter contempt for the idea.

There is nothing magical about "full format" except that it was once the 
size of 35mm film, but why stop there, all we are saying is that the bigger 
the sensor the better, all other things being strictly equal.


Steve






> Two price points away from being the premium camera the Leica M is.
> A totally unproven thing. (Leica has been making rangefinders for a few 
> more
> years)
> And when I express my support on the list for LEICA I get this!
> 
> 
> On 6/27/13 2:26 PM, "Lottermoser George" <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> So with the world all ablaze about the new Leica M 240 the only person on
>>> the Leica users list who is allowed to discuss it is the one person who 
>>> has
>>> managed to obtain one. Hoppy.
>> 
>> I believe we've seen a few examples from others who have handled them and 
>> own
>> them.
>> And we can certainly discuss their results; as questions; point to other
>> reports; etc.
>> 
>> Though I, personally, cannot imagine denying their actual experience;
>> anymore than I can imagine denying your actual experience with your gear,
>> software, chemistry, films or papers.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> Photography
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