Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/28

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Subject: [Leica] Buying Leica.....
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:11:05 -0400

I just have a sneaky feeling that the seven grand you spend on an M240 or
Monochrom or the  $25,000 you spend on an S2 is going to give you a picture
taking tool which will be good for a decade or more. Maybe two you could
still be getting images you'd be not embarrassed about showing people with
these cameras. And could do a commercial job with.
We are no longer looking at first outs. Leica has its feet on  the ground
digitally I think.


On 6/26/13 10:31 PM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> Face it, George, cameras have become a commodity item, just like TV's,
> stereos, and basically everything else in life. What prople want is
> something thwy can buy inexpensively, and just throw away and have a
> replacement the same afternoon. It is the way of today's world. Do I like
> it? I will because there is no way to change it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Lottermoser
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:55 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Buying Leica.....
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:25 PM, John McMaster wrote:
> 
>> With hindsight I would still go Leica, nothing to touch the lenses for
>> different looks and I prefer the simpler operation, but if I had not used
>> them what would make me spend 'rather a lot' more on Leica than Fuji? Does
>> 'full frame' or the build quality make enough of a difference for the
>> price jump to most people?
> 
> The piece of this "to Leica or not to Leica" quandary that throws me
> is the relatively recent "lack of reliability and maintenance."
> For over 30 years I KNEW that my Leicas would stand up to daily use;
> be able to be CLA'd and maintained for the duration of my life.
> 
> When the digital R path ended abruptly - doubt set in.
> 
> Recent stories of lack of parts or repair paths for 5 year old cameras
> seems totally unacceptable for "any" camera company;
> let alone a high end, premium camera company.
> 
> I expected that, what ever its flaws may be, that I could keep my M8
> making photographs for as long as I chose to hang on to it;
> just like every other Leica camera that came before it.
> 
> The idea that $7K camera bodies are simply disposable hardware
> with a useable life of a two year warranty - feels totally unacceptable to
> me.
> If not unacceptable - certainly unaffordable - to me.
> 
> I'm coming from that place where the 50 year old Linhof Tech IV
> I just sold works every bit as well the day I handed it to Forrest
> as the day it left the factory.
> 
> This whole new device, whether computer, camera body, phone
> whatever - simply feels quite "wrong."
> 
> I welcome technological advances and their concomitant costs;
> while also expecting that if I choose to remain a couple generations back;
> that high priced hardware continue to perform somewhere close to specs;
> and be designed for adjustment back to original specs.
> 
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> 
> 
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