Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/07/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There's only one group you can't insult by calling them what they are, and that's Rednecks. Nobody thinks they are, and so you can tell a Redneck joke to anyone. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM, <lrzeitlin at aol.com> wrote: > I've been a semi-invalid for the last week recovering from cancer surgery > and I've found the last few editions of the LUG to be a good substitute for > "War of the Sexes." They take out the stiches in a few days and I should be > back to my usual acerbic self. > > > I personally am appalled at the cultural insensitivity to sexist > terminology exhibited by many male LUG members. Despite the fact that some > of us disagree with Tina's excessive regard for Leica equipment, we don't > refer to her as a senorita (however spelled) or even as a "senorita who > snaps." Why not? Because we regard her as a mature woman and an excellent > photographer who deserves respect. > > > I may be a bit sensitive to these issues. My sister-in-law was head of > protocol at the White House and constantly had to chastise the staff for > using diminutive, immature, or overly familiar language in referring to > female guests, legislators, or Congresswomen. The Maid of Honor at my > sister-in-law's wedding was Geraldine Ferraro, a woman that no one ever > referred to as "girlie" or as a senorita. > > > Words that in themselves are not sexist, like girl, chick, gal, skirt > become so when used to refer to a woman in an overly familiar way. It's the > same when talking of men. No one would ever refer to the Pope or the > President as pal, boy, buddy, chum. We don't call Ted a "Canuck who > clicks." Unless you actively want to insult somebody, don't disrespect them > by diminishing them. A full list of male and female derogatory references > is given here: Don't use them! > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:English_sexual_slurs > > > I know most of you will say that you don't intend any disrespect. But it > comes through in your terminology. It is worse in Latin countries but it > exists everwhere. I've traveled extensively and worked abroad for much of > my life and there is a cultural insensitivity to sexism in Spain, Italy, > and parts of France. No woman Pope since Joan either. And I doubt that any > woman will soon achieve a dominant position in Islam - although Mohammed's > wife once did. > > > Finally although I respect Jayanard's opinions on business, finance, and > photography, he seems culturally unaware of the rampant sexism in India. > While it is true that India has had a female head of state, as has the UK, > Australia, and Israel, women in general are not regarded as the equal of > men. I spent three years as a Fulbright Distinguished Professor at the > University of Delhi yet my wife and 14 year old daughter could not walk the > streets near our home without being harassed by "Eve bashing" hoodlums. My > female graduate students complained that after years at the university > learning how to think and make decisions for themselves, when they left > they were often forced into loveless marriages that their parents had > arranged and once married were subject to the demands of the husband's > mother. Even today kitchen stove explosions are one of the leading causes > of female death as grooms try to extort more dowery from the bride's > parents. My landlord' daughters were forced to > leave the country to practice their professions as a physician and a > journalist. My landlord was the Editor in Chief of India's Economic Times > but even his position made little difference. So Jayanard, before you > criticize sexist sensitivity in other countries, try to get your own house > cleaned up first. > > > Incidentally, the U.S. will probably get its first female head of state in > 2016. > > > By the way, I don't intend to insult anyone. I'm just telling it like it > is. Sorry. > > > Larry Z > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana USA