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Subject: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology Please end this clap trap
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:36:35 -0700
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It saddens me that we have become hypersensitive as a society and seem to 
take relish in being offended and "putting the offender" right.

Can we go back to taking pictures? Oops, sorry, taking has negative cultural 
implications, creating images?
On Jul 4, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Bill Pearce wrote:

> Wow, George, this is really off the mark. I come from a  era where pretty 
> did not carry any sexual connotation, and my friends of younger ages don't 
> really ever use the term.
> 
> I have become more concerned with our use of language in the USA. I feel 
> that vocabularies are shrinking and terminology becomes more imprecise, 
> such as the current use of the word shading when vignetting is more 
> correct. I think that results from poorly educated and trained 
> photographers becoming internet reviewers, where there is no editor, and 
> just making up words to describe things.
> 
> There are many terms that have come up in this discussion that for many 
> years simply described gender. Calling a girl pretty narrows that down a 
> bit, but wince when is it wrong to say a pretty woman is pretty? There is 
> no sexual connotation other than one that appears in your mind, of your 
> own doing. Don't transfer your personal problems on all others.
> 
> And face it. If you don't want others making such comments in whatever 
> vein they prefer, don't put the damn photo on the internet. And to say 
> that I should not photograph girls, pretty or otherwise, is putting 
> yourself in a position of authority to which you are not qualified. You 
> sound disturbingly like today's "Helicopter Parents."
> 
> This subject has degraded at every turn to utter foolishness from people 
> putting themselves on their high horse. Get off and end this.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: George Lottermoser
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
> 
> I think "pretty" overly sexualizes the comment. What if this human being 
> was your daughter? Do you really want men on the Internet looking at her 
> picture? saying, "pretty"? Straight men should not create, look at, or 
> comment on photographs of female human beings - each of which is 
> potentially a daughter, sister or mother of a strong self righteous man 
> who must protect them.
> 
> a note off the iPad, George
> 
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Just came back from a round of golf, and sure enough, the link worked. 
>> Very
>> nice photograph of a pretty person (is that statement bland enough for the
>> cultural police?)  (-:
> 
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