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Subject: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:15:41 -0500
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I will say that I was fooled by the fact that it was so close in tone and 
language to what others who shall remain nameless have said.

This day off isn't doing me much good.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tina Manley
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:04 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology

Totally sarcastic, Bill!

Tina

On Thursday, July 4, 2013, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> Wow, George, this is really off the mark. I come from a  era where pretty
did not carry any sexual connotation, and my friends of younger ages don't
really ever use the term.
>
> I have become more concerned with our use of language in the USA. I feel
that vocabularies are shrinking and terminology becomes more imprecise,
such as the current use of the word shading when vignetting is more
correct. I think that results from poorly educated and trained
photographers becoming internet reviewers, where there is no editor, and
just making up words to describe things.
>
> There are many terms that have come up in this discussion that for many
years simply described gender. Calling a girl pretty narrows that down a
bit, but wince when is it wrong to say a pretty woman is pretty? There is
no sexual connotation other than one that appears in your mind, of your own
doing. Don't transfer your personal problems on all others.
>
> And face it. If you don't want others making such comments in whatever
vein they prefer, don't put the damn photo on the internet. And to say that
I should not photograph girls, pretty or otherwise, is putting yourself in
a position of authority to which you are not qualified. You sound
disturbingly like today's "Helicopter Parents."
>
> This subject has degraded at every turn to utter foolishness from people
putting themselves on their high horse. Get off and end this.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: George Lottermoser
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
>
> I think "pretty" overly sexualizes the comment. What if this human being
was your daughter? Do you really want men on the Internet looking at her
picture? saying, "pretty"? Straight men should not create, look at, or
comment on photographs of female human beings - each of which is
potentially a daughter, sister or mother of a strong self righteous man who
must protect them.
>
> a note off the iPad, George
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Just came back from a round of golf, and sure enough, the link worked.
Very
>> nice photograph of a pretty person (is that statement bland enough for
the
>> cultural police?)  (-:
>
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