Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/02

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Subject: [Leica] Sony Full Frame NEX
From: zeissler at mac.com (Mitch Zeissler)
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 08:16:41 -0400
References: <CE491146.FC37%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Good points, Mark.

Mitch Zeissler
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On Sep 1, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> Double frame digital! Full frame is double frame.  Or what it was called at
> first..
> And double frame is a very Leica like idea.
> An idea Barnack considered critical to his concept.
> Big pictures small negatives.
> But to get those big pix from a small neg he'd need to use more of the 
> film.
> More sprockets. stretch it sideways. Barnack innovation was he turned the
> camera sideways. And got more on the frame of 35mm movie film than was
> normally done at least in movies and on most of the 35mm cameras which had
> already come out.
> Actually quite a few of the 35mm cameras which had come out had an option
> between single and double, half and full frame.  And  the trick for getting
> any kind of quality at all was to just stick with the mask taken out and
> going double frame with everything. Though these cameras were bulky and odd
> and cumbersome.   The opposite of the well machined elegance that the
> Leica' s became.
> In effect it was "Big pictures small camera".
> A small camera you can make big pictures from and not embarrass yourself.
> 
> Would 35mm film use have taken over photography if it had been half frame
> then called single frame? I'd guess not. But it was well known the idea of
> not just using the standard movie format from 35mm film 24x18mm for stills.
> At that time an enlargement from double frame was bad enough. But single
> frame was just intolerable.
> I think as 5x7 was the most popular shooting format at the time they
> enlarged to 35mm negs to 5x7 inch. And they looked ok. When they went 
> though
> an 80  lip line screen the difference was minimized when photojournalism 
> was
> born in the 1920s.
> Nowadays in digital a 24x36mm frame gives you 24 hour shooting ability. Day
> or night indoors in the darkest closet with no flash or tripod. 18x24 much
> less so. There is not much of a reason why the cameras from those two
> formats be right about the same size. Either could be pocketable or be a
> metal munching monster.


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