Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/10/02

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Subject: [Leica] Auto ISO
From: kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:35:21 -0700
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Herbert Kanner
kanner at acm.org
650-326-8204

Question authority and the authorities will question you.




On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll have to read again, but I don't think AutoISO works on pure manual
> mode...
> Would you double check also?
> Thanks Herb,
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
> 
>> I thought a few words about how this function operates on Leica, at least
>> on the M9, might be useful to y'all, since the Leica Manual is not the
>> clearest on this subject.
>> 
>> Let's start with an understanding of the relationship between the three
>> parameters: ISO, f-number, and shutter speed. We are used to thinking of
>> exposure having one degree of freedom for a correct exposure. That is
>> because we are used, from years of experience with film, of thinking of 
>> ISO
>> being a constant. You can't change ISO in the middle of a roll of film. 
>> So,
>> for any situation, there is one degree of freedom for a "correct" 
>> exposure:
>> you change shutter speed, you have to change aperture, and vice versa.
>> Hence, for the little all-electronic cameras where both the aperture and
>> shutter are under computer control, you can choose the aperture (aperture
>> preferred), or you can chose the shutter speed (shutter speed preferred)
>> and the camera choses the one you didn't chose. You all know this; I'm 
>> just
>> being pedantic.  Oh, then these idiot cameras have "programmed" mode where
>> the camera chooses both based on some arcane set of rules. That's for 
>> bozos.
>> 
>> Now, lets look at the Leica. The camera can control the shutter, but it
>> can't control the aperture. So the only automatic mode would appear to be
>> aperture preferred. Ah, but the ISO is under the control of the camera's
>> computer. It is now a third variable: it can be changed at any time. So,
>> Leica in its wisdom invented Auto ISO. Now we have two degrees of freedom.
>> That is, we can pick the values of any two: say ISO and aperture, and now
>> the shutter speed is determined. Thus, on the Leica, we now have a way of
>> doing shutter speed preferred: set the shutter to the speed you want, set
>> the aperture to the f-number you want, and the camera will pick an ISO 
>> that
>> gives the correct exposure. So, what happens if you set Auto ISO and
>> aperture preferred on the M9? You will be in s situation similar to 
>> program
>> mode in a point and shoot. The camera will chose both the shutter speed 
>> and
>> the ISO value. I took a few shots at three consecutive stops on the dial,
>> and the shutter speed sat at 1
>> /150, perhaps not what I would want with a 90mm.
>> 
>> If you set a shutter speed and an f stop with Auto ISO, everything works
>> fine as long as the ISO that gives "correct" exposure is in the available
>> ISO range. And you can use exposure compensation. What you lose is any
>> information about exposure in the viewfinder. What information could that
>> be? The ISO the camera selects, of course.
>> 
>> One warning: the little dot and triangles used for manual exposure setting
>> seem to be meaningless with Auto ISO: just ignore them.
>> 
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at acm.org
>> 650-326-8204
>> 
>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bob Adler
> 
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In reply to: Message from kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner) ([Leica] Auto ISO)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] Auto ISO)