Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Unless someone actually posts pictures to illustrate these opinions, you guys are all going to be in so much trouble if Dr Ted sees this thread. ;-) I know that Tina and Ted are masters of these lenses wide open. Let's see your stuff. I just stopped the (borrowed) thing down because that was the light I had and the DoF I wanted too. http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153201969 http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153260573 Cheers Geoff http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman On 1 January 2014 06:55, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > The difference between the DOF of a 50/1.4 and 50/1.0 lens is actually > pretty minimal. > > Both are hard to nail critical focus, especially close in. With the EVF of > the M or Sony or Fuji, the issues of focus are remarkably reduced. > > The real difference between the various (age) 50's is the fingerprint of > the lens, weight, and cost. > > If you are not in favor of weight around your neck, then all 3 Noctis fall > off the list, closely followed by the ASPH Lux. The lightest is the more > recent (black) Summicron. > > If you can not afford $3-10k for the lens, then the choice boils down to a > Summicron. > > Fingerprint is so subjective. But for pure unmitigated sharpness, the ASPH > Lux is the clear winner. > > I am (almost) down to only the ASPH Lux. And have no regrets. Absolutely > great lens. > > Frank Filippone > > > On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > No matter what you do with a sensor, a 1.0ish lens shooting wide open > cannot be duplicated with a 1.4. Even just from a depth of field stand > point, let alone the other characteristics of using such a fast lens wide > open. So, if that is what you want it is indeed necessary. > > > > Aram, who owned a 1.2 lens at one time but could no longer focus with it. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:07 PM > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux > > > > I think with the modern digital sensors and cameras, very few lens are > > truly "necessary," and most are a matter of "wants." Nothing wrong with > > that since I succumb to gear lust myself, but the world's best pictures > are > > seldom taken by the world's most expensive and best lens. > > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Wulff <hjwulff at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> The 0.95 is as good as it gets at high speed, with the well understood > >> downsides of price and size. At smaller apertures the pictures are hard > to > >> distinguish from Summilux-ASPH pictures, but the large size and price > >> remain. Focus shift exists but is quite manageable. It is the only one > of > >> the three that can be considered an all in one lens, if you can live > with > >> the size. This lens, like the other Nocti's focusses down to only 1m, > which > >> is a distinct limitation in comparison to the slower current 50's and > in my > >> opinion its main operational failing. > >> > >> The f/1 is of much lower contrast at wider apertures, but also sharpens > up > >> nicely with the downside of considerable focus shift. It has incredible > >> flare tolerance which allows it to capture images that no other lens > seems > >> capable of. A lens shade is largely pointless. This is a lens that is > not > >> easy to master and renders in a unique way, but the rewards are great. > Our > >> Dr. Ted did most of his medical photography for his books with this > lens, > >> and mostly at f/1. True mastery! > >> > >> The f/1.2 is pointless unless you plan on placing it in an honorary > >> position in your collection. Current prices are exorbitant, and it is > not > >> as good a lens overall as the f/1 while being slower. It is a much > softer > >> version of the old Summilux 50. The Nokton f/1.1 is definitely a better > >> lens overall. > >> > >> If you have the Summilux ASPH and an M240, the 0.95 is not as necessary > as > >> it was with the M9, but it of course still allows a little but lower > light > >> subjects to be recorded successfully (as long as they are at least one > >> meter away) with shallower dof, but the f/1 will allow a different > vision, > >> if you are willing and able to master it. > >> > >> I used to have an f/1.2, have used the f/0.95 and the Nokton f/1.1 and > >> currently have the f/1 and the Summilux ASPH. > >> > >> Henning > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2013-12-30, at 9:30 PM, David Ching <davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg> > wrote: > >> > >> > Dear Emanuel, > >> > > >> > The Noct f0.95 is surely superior in some ways to the Lux 50 ASPH or > the > >> Voightlander Nokton f1.1 of the later two which I have. > >> > How would you rate the 3 Noct versions , f0.95, f1.0 and f1.2? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > David Ching > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> > >> Henning Wulff > >> henningw at archiphoto.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >