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Subject: [Leica] Monochrom high iso test
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:28:11 -0800
References: <52E73787.3070602@jayburleson.com> <CAF8hL-F-wZhCJJykfCfvsmVfSjKDwwvyQDtcZ0-ovO0LmyPn5A@mail.gmail.com> <CABmfTOX7J8V0YC4p0S4fJY7i7tCUfGkBDOxdrmH02Opf6JrcKQ@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9E68429D7@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAF8hL-Ejz4tx3NvMvgrP0PxOC6=3E2mty_5qzN7qy0QE21yWuw@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9E6847AA5@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAE3QcF5qDi7nTb_=wgRPc_q_uoqmzQAKR6YXNUPQc=ZYro-+_A@mail.gmail.com>

It's killing me...
I keep telling myself the M is close enough... Then John goes and shoves it 
in my face...
Grrrrr

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think that these kinds of samples should come with a warning
> "Caution May induce symptoms of severe GAS in some viewers".
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
>> On 29 January 2014 12:55, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> A couple of examples:
>> 
>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/27/content/L2003238_large.html
>> 
>> 
>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/LUG/05-TwilightZone/content/L2003805_HDR_large.html
>> 
>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/41/content/L2004005_large.html
>> 
>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2014/02/content/L2004327_large.html
>> 
>> You can start to see the effect in these 1200 pixel images, it looks
>> lovely in the original......
>> 
>> john
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> OK, THAT is hard core :-)
>> 
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:41 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ditto, I often use an ND1.8 so I can use 5000 during the day ;-)
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I love the texture at ISO 5000 so much particularly in low light with
>>> lower contrast lenses, that I don't do anything to the noise.
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, 28 January 2014, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just out of curiosity, does anyone who do all sort of tricks to get
>>>> "better noise behaviors" etc. have good photos to show?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jay Burleson
>>>> <leica at jayburleson.com<javascript:;>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am more apt to follow Ted's advice and just go out and shoot, but
>>>> enough
>>>>> interest has been raised here and on other forums for me to
>>>>> undertake
>>>> this
>>>>> absolutely non-scientific test.
>>>>> There has been some chatter about deliberately underexposing the M9
>>>>> at a lower iso and then pushing the exposure in post to get better
>>>>> noise results, and questions have been asked, since the Monochrom
>>>>> shares the
>>>> same
>>>>> base sensor as the M9, if that would work with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The answer is yes and no.
>>>>> It is doable, but (to my eye), there is no appreciable reason to do
>> it.
>>>>> There is a slight (approx. 1/4 stop) gain in the highlight side of
>>>>> the histogram, but the overall noise is the same, and when fully
>>>>> processed,
>>>> no
>>>>> real differences.
>>>>> It does demonstrate how much detail is available in the Monochrom
>>>> shadows;
>>>>> a 5 stop push on the underexposed image was just fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> #2171: iso 10000, -.3 stop exposure compensation, no other Lightroom
>>>>> adjustments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> #2172: iso 1250, -.3 stop exposure compensation, + 3 stops exposure
>>>>> added in Lightroom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> #2171A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>>>>> my opinion).
>>>>> 
>>>>> #2172A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>>>>> my opinion).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The images are here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://jayburleson.com/leica/misc_images/mm_iso_test/
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jay,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay Burleson Gallery
>>>>> <http://jayburleson.com/leica/gallery/index.php/>
>> 
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