Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/01/31

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Subject: [Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:49:56 -0800
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Hey, I got YOUR Leica features, you can suffer mine too :-)


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> Each with our own preferred methods for different scenarios. Just work with
> what you have in any Leica body or any other I guess, just don't wish extra
> stuff onto my next Leica ;-)
> ......I think I hear Ted entering the room....
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
> On 31 January 2014 13:47, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > The point is, for street photos, a simple +1 lever is simple and works
> well
> > most of the time.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at 
> > earthlink.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Even if I'm sitting still my subjects are jumping in and out of
> different
> > > lighting conditions with a wide variety of backgrounds.
> > >
> > > Auto exposure has not worked well for me unless the critter stays in
> the
> > > same light as the background and is the same tonal value as the
> > background
> > > and if that's the case what's the advantage of auto exposure?
> > >
> > > Just more stuff I don't need to remember:
> > >
> > > Is the animal staying in the same light?  if so, is the meter going to
> be
> > > fooled by the background?  if not then I can use auto exposure.  If
> this
> > is
> > > where AE works, what's the point of it?
> > >
> > > Doug Herr
> > > Birdman of Sacramento
> > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > > >Sent: Jan 30, 2014 6:36 PM
> > > >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM
> > > >
> > > >Different horses for courses. In a fast moving street situation,
> > > auto-stuff
> > > >is useful and one can learn exactly how much the meter is fooled. If
> you
> > > >are sitting around in one area or in areas where the exposure is
> > > relatively
> > > >similar, then of course manual is just fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Doug Herr <
> > wildlightphoto at earthlink.net
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Or more precisely, the Leica large spot meter is a dumb, simple
> > system
> > > >> that
> > > >> >does exactly what a dumb system does, accurately and predictably.
> > What
> > > you
> > > >> >told it, not what you meant!  No training wheels ;-) ;-)
> > > >> >When you get the wrong result (as I do regularly) the error is not
> > > inside
> > > >> >the camera ;-) ;-) ;-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Exactly why I use manual exposure 100% of the time.  The light meter
> > is
> > > >> totally, predictably dumb.  I never have to guess what the meter is
> > > >> compensating for and guess how much compensation I need to reverse.
> > > >>
> > > >> Doug Herr
> > > >> Birdman of Sacramento
> > > >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
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In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr) ([Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Comparing B&W M9/MM)