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Subject: [Leica] Computer Woes
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:36:10 -0500
References: <CA+yJO1CZgjU8COCUGMkZyxqFXZ2L9UVc-x-HOWLGiNVJT0eENQ@mail.gmail.com> <52EE3D73.2070004@summaventures.com> <CA+yJO1DG6qAdxSMyqqaZ=hciTFwRZ8VNC5NJVOZqAPMHX1wjyg@mail.gmail.com> <B1AEAFFE-6B68-43CD-B39D-D5D8A66B337A@cartersxrd.net> <242F3836-769A-4F63-AAD8-C83603830856@cartersxrd.net> <CA+yJO1Aqfjbro8HqnGp70MgOY9eOWfBVby3wSfboUjyb2SM7kg@mail.gmail.com> <7A3E2BAA-E41E-4C5D-89FF-BBB6E0E1DE2E@cartersxrd.net> <7B380AE1-6022-4625-BD0D-1264620C2C7E@cartersxrd.net> <CA+yJO1DpdT6EZTM4i1XM=e5N6YPc6zc_hBmQJUptOiXAof0K2w@mail.gmail.com> <C5B40260-54FC-4E4C-914D-415371505532@cartersxrd.net>

If you have imported them to the huge catalog, you will need to delete them
from the svelte.  Just be sure you click Delete from Catalog Only, not from
the hard drive.

Does that make sense?

Tina


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:

> yes
>
> one original imported file in archive file folder
>
> I have two catalogs:
> one huge has everything (64,000 images)
> one svelt with recent stuff only (16,000 images)
>
> added photos to svelt yesterday, worked on a couple of images
>
> this morning whet to huge, imported new images from svelt catalog
> did NOT make new copies of original files
> no metadata warnings in huge
> went back to svelt, metadata warnings on all yesterday's files
>
> thanks for bearing with my thickness here
>
> ric
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> On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>
> > But are you putting them in more than one catalog at the same time?
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:38 PM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
> >
> >> i did NOT duplicate cam files
> >>
> >> left them in the original archive
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:37 PM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> yes
> >>>
> >>> and so far as i know nothing changd in the files other than that they
> >> are now referenced by another catalog
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Are you using File menu > Import from Another Catalog to move the
> >> photos to
> >>>> the other catalog?
> >>>>
> >>>> Tina
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:18 PM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm trying this strategy and have a worry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> imported yesterday's images into slimmed "current"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> later imported additions from "current" to "full" catalog of several
> >> years
> >>>>> images.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> did not duplicate image files, left them in the same arachive folder
> >>>>>
> >>>>> now all those images (in current) are showing metadata change
> warnings
> >>>>> asking if it should overwrite or import
> >>>>>
> >>>>> nothing has changed except they were included in a different catalog
> >>>>>
> >>>>> what should i do?
> >>>>> is it unavaoidable?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ric
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:34 AM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i've just stated trying something like that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> my LR catalog was getting slow as the devil to open or search
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm trying annual catalogs plus current which is last year and this
> >> year
> >>>>> so far plus one slow open master with everything
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> keeping those older annuals up to date is one concern i'm having now
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi, Peter - Just the fact that you can't open more than one catalog
> >> at a
> >>>>>>> time.  If you know what year a particular photo was made, you would
> >> only
> >>>>>>> have to open that one catalog, but if you need to search (which I
> >> often
> >>>>>>> do), you cannot search across several catalogs.  My plan,
> >> recommended by
> >>>>>>> Peter Krogh, is to have one catalog for Archive photos - anything
> >> made
> >>>>>>> before this year - and one catalog for the current year.  The
> current
> >>>>> year
> >>>>>>> catalog would be much smaller and would normally be the one that
> I'm
> >>>>>>> working on most of the time.  The smaller catalog would be faster
> to
> >>>>> work
> >>>>>>> on and the Archive catalog would be for searching anything I've
> >> already
> >>>>>>> keyworded and filed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Peter Dzwig <
> >> pdzwig at summaventures.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tina,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am only just starting to work with LR and am thinking about how
> I
> >>>>> might
> >>>>>>>> handle
> >>>>>>>> my stuff (which is nothing like as big as yours of course!) I
> >> thought
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> might split the Archive up by years. Is there any reason that you
> >> can't
> >>>>>>>> split up
> >>>>>>>> into more than two?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 31/01/2014 14:43, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> PESO:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I haven't commented on photos lately because I can't get to them.
> >> My
> >>>>>>>> main
> >>>>>>>>> computer is tied up with LR.  After reading Peter Krogh's latest
> >> book
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> digital management, I decided to divide my photos into two LR
> >> catalogs
> >>>>>>>>> instead of one huge one.  I made one for Archive photos and kept
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> original catalog for Current photos.  That part went fine.  Then
> I
> >>>>> had to
> >>>>>>>>> remove all of the Archive photos from the the Current catalog.
>  LR
> >>>>> worked
> >>>>>>>>> on it for two days, I left it working when I went to Charleston.
> >>>>> When I
> >>>>>>>>> came back it was 88% finished, but I got a notice that my
> computer
> >> was
> >>>>>>>>> dangerously low on memory and was shutting down.  I had to start
> >> all
> >>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>> again.  Now it's been working for three days and is 85% finished.
> >> I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> shut down everything else on the computer, including e-mail.  I'm
> >>>>> using
> >>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>> little Acer netbook for e-mail.  LR is using 99% of the physical
> >>>>> memory -
> >>>>>>>>> 8GB.  I had over 500,000 photos in the one catalog and am trying
> to
> >>>>>>>> remove
> >>>>>>>>> 175,000.  I guess I should have done it in smaller amounts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The Acer is too small and slow to look at photos, but I'll catch
> up
> >>>>>>>> someday.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any suggestions besides throwing the computer out the window
> would
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated.  I can't even download the photos I took in
> >>>>>>>>> Charleston!!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >
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> >
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