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Subject: [Leica] Lluis' B&W tonality
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:45:29 +0100
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Bob 

Thank you very much for your kind words, you and many others are not at all 
novices, you made me very happy that my explanation help you, but I don?t 
really deserve such kind words?.

Cheers!
Lluis


El 21/02/2014, a las 08:25, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> escribi?:

> Thank you Lluis. An excellent tutorial that gives a starting point to us 
> novices who wish to develop our own processes. 
> You are very generous. 
> Best,
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>> gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Susan, Gerry, Bob, Larry and others ? I really think I don?t 
>> deserve such mentions, I?ve saw after years the B&W of many of many of 
>> you are sharing with us, everyone has his own style and I don?t know if I 
>> can explain my workflow as a certain rule ? , IMHO is a question of the 
>> personal preferences. Even so I can explain why I work.
>> 
>> I normally work in manual mode and in digital I prefer a little under 
>> exposure than over exposure. Usually I prefer use old lenses, IMHO they 
>> give more medium tones and less crispy images to work. When I process the 
>> DNG I have certain ?own? rules, I try to avoid or at least minimize the 
>> extreme tones of the Dynamic Range, Absolute Black (Zone 0) and absolute 
>> white (Zone X), usually I start marking the white and the black points, 
>> after I do a first arrangement using the extended Dynamic range that 
>> offer Capture One (medium tones for shadow and lights), after this I work 
>> with the curve to obtain the contrast I want, finally I work on the 
>> classical controls of Exposure, Brilliance and Contrast an if it is 
>> necessary I correct the previous values I?ve do. I edit the image in 
>> Photoshop and I click in to the Automatic levels, generally I accept what 
>> PS does. If the image is too flat I try to improve it with Silver Efex 
>> Pro.
>> 
>> IMHO Capture One is a great tool for work the B&W, it has different B&W 
>> presets, and I have also build mines. The same thing with Silver Efex 
>> Pro, I?ve never use the standard presets, I?ve build some own presets, 
>> but rarely they work for a new picture, I have to modify different 
>> things. 
>> 
>> When I work I always take care of the histogram, and I try to cover all 
>> the range. Silver Efex Pro offer the histogram and the 10 zones, this is 
>> useful for me, I can better correct extreme Zones 0 and 10.
>> 
>> I don?t know if this can be interesting for you, I think is nothing new, 
>> last Summer our friend Geoff was with me looking my workflow, I work by 
>> my instinct and I think difficult made, as you say, a tutorial, this 
>> sounds for me too pretentious?
>> 
>> I hope have answered your question ? 
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 19/02/2014, a las 16:49, lrzeitlin at aol.com escribi?:
>>> 
>>> Lluis,
>>> I am always impressed by the tonal quality you manage to achieve in your 
>>> B&W pictures. Especially when viewed on the new high resolution screen 
>>> of my Macbook Pro. We may differ on matters of composition and subject 
>>> selection but your B&W images are far superior to the bulk of those 
>>> shown on the LUG. I mean no disrespect to other photographers but your 
>>> pictures are in a class by themselves.? It can't all be the Leica 
>>> Monocrom.? The results are just as good with every camera you use, even 
>>> old film cameras. The big question is how do you do it??
>>> Could you describe your workflow from shutter click to posting on the 
>>> internet as a tutorial for less adept photographers. I would like to be 
>>> able to get your results in B&W images.
>>> Larry Z
>>> 
>>> 
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