Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/05/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well done, and ignoring the rules, and the wise head of Uncle Ted, I'd say you have a winner! I'll have to get something better than Photoshop Elements 4!! Douglas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim > Having said that, it only takes about 5 minutes to move the boy's body > down > and line up the heads: > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155651192 > > as opposed to > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638567 > > Flip back and forth and watch him dive! > > Tina > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > wrote: > >> Exactly, Ted! Can I quote you on that ;-) >> >> When I submit photos for stock, I have to check whether they have been >> manipulated or not. Here is what the rules say: >> >> "Whilst many images may be altered to a certain degree, if the original >> scene has been changed significantly we define it as digitally altered. >> This includes adding, moving, or removing items and major changes to >> saturation, contrast and levels. Essentially, a digitally altered image >> is >> a distorted image of the original scene. >> >> An image *should not* be classed as digitally altered if it has been >> cropped, converted to black and white or if minor changes have been made >> to >> levels and saturation. >> >> Editorial customers (e.g. newspapers, magazines, book publishers) need to >> know if an image has been altered such that it no longer has the exact >> appearance of the original. Some customers need to be guaranteed a degree >> of authenticity." >> >> None of the photos I submit for editorial use have been digitally >> altered. >> Now for art prints, anything goes! >> >> Tina >> >> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Douglas mon ami, >>> >>> But that's cheating! If it were an advertisement and selling cars , >>> boats >>> etc. One can fiddle it any old way one wishes. Why? Well most >>> advertising >>> images are faked, changed, sun added, moon added, diver angle changed.? >>> WHATEVER!!!!! >>> >>> However when I look at Tina's photos I only see and appreciate the >>> beauty >>> of a reality moment captured in true simple magic! >>> >>> WHY? >>> Well Tina is an absolutely incredible, "PHOTOJOURNALIST!" And we >>> photojournalist's don't cheat.... WELL WE DON'T! WELL? ;-) I'll never >>> tell! >>> :-) The advert guys and gals "are producing an image that isn't a >>> captured >>> real life moment. SO WHO CARES?" >>> >>> ERGO? Leave the image alone physically other than for a possible minimal >>> tweak of colour or brightness. MAYBE? >>> >>> cheers, >>> ted >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie> >>> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim >>> >>> >>> Tina, >>>> You could do sneaky, and shift the divers body down a tad to align all >>>> four heads in the same plane, and ensure you align them with the corner >>>> of >>>> the frame to boot. You'd have a gut stopping image then, but I don't >>>> know >>>> how to do that manipulation, correct the resulting blanks left on the >>>> water >>>> as a result, and make the whole thing look seamless. >>>> >>>> Life is complicated.... >>>> >>>> Douglas >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at >>>> comporium.net> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:24 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. I'm posting two alternate crops: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638567 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638571 >>>>> >>>>> Which one? Better than the original? I have lots more of the boys >>>>> swimming and diving, but this is the only one where he's perfectly >>>>> upside >>>>> down! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Tina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM, George Lottermoser < >>>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Douglas Barry wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Personally, I think it looks better and has better impact, Tina. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Douglas >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" > < >>>>>> images at comporium.net> >>>>>> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:40 PM >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> How is this? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155634895 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Compared to http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155633772 >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree that the tighter crop >>>>>> 1) has more impact >>>>>> 2) makes it look "less dangerous" >>>>>> >>>>>> however, putting "diver" dead center >>>>>> does not work for me. >>>>>> I'd be searching for the tight yet asymmetrically balanced >>>>>> composition >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> George Lottermoser >>>>>> george at imagist.com >>>>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tina Manley >>>>> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley >> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley > http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >