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Subject: [Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 19:45:00 +0200
References: <537690C9.3020405@threshinc.com> <CAH1UNJ0xr=WaeG-zTXuURO+TDS=pcmXu5n=RQCmjYu+L_VEf7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Jayanand,

Of course I agree with you, it was complicated translate in English what 
Fischer-Dieskau said, he was referring into the sense that there are many 
performers that act more for themselves than for the music, he was mainly 
talking about the economic aspects.

Cheers
Lluis

El 17/05/2014, a las 04:10, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
escribi?:

> Peter,
> Tools do matter. It is in choosing the best tool for a purpose that
> personal prejudices seep in, and we frequently end up with something
> sub optimal for that particular purpose.
> 
> In answer to Luis, I beg to differ. Music, like all arts, should be
> performed for the benefit of the audience, otherwise it is all a
> waste...(-:
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> 
> wrote:
>> A number of my friends are symphony musicians.  Today, one of them posted 
>> on
>> Facebook that she had found a great online deal on a set of high-end 
>> violin
>> strings, and wondered if they were OK.  This led to a discussion of the 
>> fine
>> points of shelf life, variants of the brand, and whether a platinum-coated
>> E-string is better than a plain tin one.
>> 
>> And I wished that the "your camera (or lens) doesn't matter" crowd were
>> listening in.  Yes, musicians argue over instruments, strings, reeds and
>> mouthpieces, just as artists *do* argue over paintbrushes, and 
>> photographers
>> argue about cameras and lenses.  Does anyone seriously believe that  a 
>> cheap
>> school-orchestra fiddle should sound as good as a Stradivarius or Guarneri
>> violin?  Yes, the best players might be able to make the bad fiddle sound
>> reasonably good, but no way would it sound as good as the Strad.
>> 
>> So why do some of us constantly down people who prefer Lens A over Lens B,
>> or Camera 1 over Camera 2?   The lens "resonates" the light, emphasizing
>> some aspects while diminishing others, just as the instrument resonates 
>> the
>> sound.  The camera's ergonomics and design are optimum for one type of
>> picture over another.  And a camera that you have to fight to get the shot
>> is just as hampering as the violin with a bad "wolf" tone in an exposed
>> passage.
>> 
>> Yes, of course musicians can get cultlike about this brand over that, just
>> as photographers do about cameras and lenses.  Yes, a good photographer my
>> be able to take a decent picture with any camera or lens, just as the
>> musician may be able to turn in a decent performance with any instrument.
>> But if my friend is going to play a big solo, she wants the best violin 
>> and
>> strings she can afford. If you handed her a cheap school fiddle and told 
>> her
>> that "instruments don't matter, it's the musician that makes the music," 
>> she
>> would probably think you were an ignoramus (to be charitable). And she'd 
>> be
>> right.
>> 
>> The hard truth is:  Tools do matter.  Maybe not so much with Web-sized 
>> JPGs,
>> and maybe not to rank beginners.  But once you're doing things "for real,"
>> they do matter. A lot.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
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In reply to: Message from pklein at threshinc.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras)