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Subject: [Leica] Fun with 60+ years old Film
From: leica at jayburleson.com (Jay Burleson)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:33:06 -0700
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Fun with a changing bag, glad you were sort of successful!
According to a Kodak scientist I once met, the sheet film version of 
Super-XX had more silver per square inch of emulsion than any other 
contemporary sheet film.
I really loved that film, and was very disappointed to see it replaced 
by the tabbed grain stuff.
When it was gone, I switched to FP4+ as it was the closest to the long 
tonal scale of Super-XX.

Jay

On 6/23/2014 3:06 PM, Richard Man wrote:
> I bought a pack of Super-XX from eBay... Yes, Super-XX, "Must Be Developed
> Before Feb 1951" Well, so we are 63 years too late. I am sure it will work
> *grin*
>
> Put the package inside the changing tent with a film holder. My mental
> conversation (I hope it's mental anyway, and not me narrating what's
> happening at real time) went like this:
> "What is this? It feels like Pack Film! Ooops. OK, no big deal, I could
> just open the metal frames like this, and hmm... where are the sheets?"
> Eventually found them, ripped one off the protective sheet and tried to
> push it in the film holder, guessing which side is the emulsion by feel
> and... it wouldn't go in.
>
> Touched and touched and it felt a bit wider and quite a bit longer than 4x5
> negs. In went the pair of scissors and I did the best I could to cut 2
> sheets totally by feel. At this point, I was sure that this is an entirely
> waste of a grand total of $8 (+ shipping).
>
> Put the remaining sheets in a film box and took everything out of the tent
> and realized that I have ruined about 6 sheets due to not able to see which
> are what, and what is where. Double oops.
>
> Took two test shots, using exposure assuming ISO 50 (Super-XX was a high
> speed film at ISO125 thereabout, but 63 years in a box probably lower its
> sensitivity so I figured ISO50 is probably good). F5.6 at 1/8 second, 120 
> APO
> Symmar with the Chamonix Saber on a tripod.
>
> Managed to somehow wrangle them into the Jobo reel, even though the hand
> cut sheets are neither the correct size nor even cut straight. Xtol 12 mins
> in the Jobo with a pre-wash. Quick water stop, 30 secs in fix then took a
> quick look and I was REALLY SURPRISED to see images on both sheets! Put it
> back on the Jobo and finished it with proper fixing length, hypo clear,
> water rinse, and photo flo. After they dried, scanned and post processed
> and realized that one sheet has the emulsion facing the wrong way so the
> exposure was about -2 stops! Tripe oops. The other one the exposure is
> actually about + 1/2 stop.
>
> So yes, these are post processed and therefore enhanced, but for a 63 year
> emulsion, it's not bad at all!!
>
> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20140611-Scanned-361-Edit.jpg
>
> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20140611-Scanned-362.jpg
>


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