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Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
From: red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:25:10 -0700
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I never said he would not get beat up by Uncle Big-ass.  I only said that he
has the legal right to the pictures, in the USA.

Frank Filippone
Red735i at verizon.net


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf
Of Sonny Carter
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:42 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Is this ethical?

Yeah, Frank, and she describes Luis to her big-ass Uncle and his pals.

Let's see how far your Thursday afternoon reasoning takes Luis then.   ;-)


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
wrote:

> Situation:  The kid is probably 8-11 years old.  You are on the public 
> street.  You take her picture,  She says no photos.  You did not erase 
> the images taken before the NO.....
>
> I realize this is Spain, with different rules/laws, however..... in 
> the US....
>
> The girl is a minor with essentially no legal rights.  In this case NO 
> means nothing.
> Photography of a minor, assuming it is not in the least bit 
> pornographic or perverse, is not against the law.  Ditto any other age.
> You are on a public street, visible. You have the legal right to 
> photograph anything from a public street.  Anything.
>
> Now if you were to use the photograph to financial gain ( 
> sell/rent/use the picture in an advertisement, for example) the rules 
> change.....  It is still lawful, but she could sue you for use without 
> reimbursement.... and win.
>
> This all centers upon the "rights" of the Paparazzi.  Which have been 
> upheld in the US.
>
> Are you planning to make a lot of money from this photograph?
>
> Shall we call you Don Paparazzi Luis?
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:56 AM
> To: Leica Users Group; MUGers at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
>
> The Luggers who has been in Barcelona they know very well this place, 
> Sant Felip de Neri, I love it! There is as school there and I've take 
> some shoots trying to respect the privacity. The young girl has came 
> and said me "no photos" , I have processed the image with a certain 
> contrast to made the faces more difficult to be identified. In Spain 
> there is no Law regulations about restrictions to photograph children. 
> What do you think?
>
> Children, Pl. Sant Felip de Neri
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061102.jpg.html
> >
>
> No photo
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061103.jpg.html
> >
>
> Leica MP, Summilux 50 v2, Agfa APX100, Plustek, Vuescan
>
> Thanks, I will appreciate your c&c !
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
>
>
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Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA

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