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Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:13:08 +0200
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Le 10 juil. 2014 ? 23:47, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> 
a ?crit :

> Thank you Frank! you made me really smile!
> 
> I think the true Paparazzi shoot famous persons only,


She will become famous and will thank you for that bandido :-)

Amities de Mutz
Philippe



> for them this is like a profession.



> I?ve never get money from one of my pictures - unfortunately ! I have sold 
> some ones on the Gallery I?m exposing, that?s all, nothing important.
> 
> About the rules and other of the aspects you mention I agree, but if I 
> don?t need exhibit the picture and the picture is neither a great one ? it 
> is not worst made more efforts on this way.
> 
> Thank you for your opinion!
> 
> Cheers
> Lluis
> 
> 
> 
> El 10/07/2014, a las 23:32, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
> escribi?:
> 
>> Situation:  The kid is probably 8-11 years old.  You are on the public
>> street.  You take her picture,  She says no photos.  You did not erase the
>> images taken before the NO.....
>> 
>> I realize this is Spain, with different rules/laws, however..... in the
>> US....
>> 
>> The girl is a minor with essentially no legal rights.  In this case NO 
>> means
>> nothing.
>> Photography of a minor, assuming it is not in the least bit pornographic 
>> or
>> perverse, is not against the law.  Ditto any other age.
>> You are on a public street, visible. You have the legal right to 
>> photograph
>> anything from a public street.  Anything. 
>> 
>> Now if you were to use the photograph to financial gain ( sell/rent/use 
>> the
>> picture in an advertisement, for example) the rules change.....  It is 
>> still
>> lawful, but she could sue you for use without reimbursement.... and win.
>> 
>> This all centers upon the "rights" of the Paparazzi.  Which have been 
>> upheld
>> in the US.
>> 
>> Are you planning to make a lot of money from this photograph?
>> 
>> Shall we call you Don Paparazzi Luis?
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Lluis Ripoll
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:56 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group; MUGers at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
>> 
>> The Luggers who has been in Barcelona they know very well this place, Sant
>> Felip de Neri, I love it! There is as school there and I've take some 
>> shoots
>> trying to respect the privacity. The young girl has came and said me "no
>> photos" , I have processed the image with a certain contrast to made the
>> faces more difficult to be identified. In Spain there is no Law 
>> regulations
>> about restrictions to photograph children. What do you think?
>> 
>> Children, Pl. Sant Felip de Neri
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061102.jpg.html>
>> 
>> No photo
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061103.jpg.html>
>> 
>> Leica MP, Summilux 50 v2, Agfa APX100, Plustek, Vuescan
>> 
>> Thanks, I will appreciate your c&c !
>> 
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
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