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Subject: [Leica] Statistics
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:16:31 -0700
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On Jul 14, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> ALL of the out of focus errors with the Fuji were caused by a switch or
> button or lens collar moving to a different position by itself.


Tina, the subject of this e-mail is statistics... I have shot with both Fuji 
and Leica. I reluctantly have to offer a couple thoughts,

1.this simply does not happen. (bouncing in a truck or changes by curious 
kids playing is different).  If this were to explain all, then no exposures 
are oof for any of the usual reasons
2.when you shoot with the leica, for each image, the settings will be reset 
in any case.
3.people in the past have noted that a high % of difficult leica exposures 
are oof...this has ranged from perhaps 10% to a majority of times....

(the common problem that can be very hard and annoying to find initially is 
a change in the switch on the front, but one learns, as Frank Dernie 
mentioned.)



The manual
> focus switch on the front, the aperture ring, the manual/auto focus collar
> on the lenses, the exposure controls all moved too easily, especially
> bouncing in the back of a truck or messed with by curious kids.  I got so
> paranoid that I had to check every setting before I took a photo;
> therefore, I used the Leicas more and more on the trip.
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at 
> btinternet.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> The focus (or oof) rate is very interesting.
>> My observation with autofocus has always been that unless I take a long
>> time making sure the autofocus sensor is exactly where I wish focus to
>> fall, or I am using a slowish zoom, stopped down, autofocus shots often
>> disappoint by not quite having focus where I want it.
>> Is this the possibly why you rejected so many of the Fuji shots, or were
>> they mainly macro (which almost always have some oof problems IME...). Or
>> is it just me who hasn't mastered autofocus for anything other than
>> quicksilver grandchildren!
>> Frank D
>> 
>> On 13 Jul, 2014, at 22:25, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> PESO:
>>> 
>>> This is the kind of thing you can research when you have LR ;-)
>>> 
>>> I have finally finished editing all of the photos from Honduras.  I took
>>> 1839 photos in all:  869 with the Fuji, 549 with the M240, and 411 with
>> the
>>> MM.
>>> 
>>> Of those, I deleted 243 that were out of focus: 206 with the Fuji, 23
>> with
>>> the M240, and 14 with the MM.
>>> 
>>> From the remaining, I gave my highest rating of 4 stars to 103 photos: 33
>>> with the Fuji, 22 with the M240, and 48 with the MM.
>>> 
>>> Of the 7 lenses I used, the ones that did the best were the Leica 35/2.0,
>>> Leica 50/1.4, and Leica 90/2.0.
>>> 
>>> What I have concluded is that I love the results I get with the MM.  I
>> will
>>> be carrying it more often in the future, along with those three lenses.
>>> 
>>> I'm not giving up on the Fuji, but it certainly did not solve my focusing
>>> problem and I was encouraged by the number that I did get in focus with
>> the
>>> Leicas!  Maybe all of that focusing I did with the Auto-refractor helped
>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> I hope this is interesting to some.  It was invaluable to me.  I'll be
>>> posting some of the 4's next week.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley
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>>> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/
>>> 
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> 
> 
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> Tina Manley
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