Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Great stuff to find out about Bob thanks! I went to a big PhaseOne presentation a month ago with Albert Watson and now have a PhaseOne cover on my iPhone and a PhaseOne water bottle and PhaseOne earphones. The head of the company spoke and not some slick marketing rep which made it interesting. A truly cool company. There is a little switch on the side of both the 500cm and the ELM which pre raises the mirror and re clicks everything else so when you click the shutter its about as quite and smooth as a Rolleiflex. That's said you most often don't need it. Certainly not in the sunlight or with flash. Here we have the idea being put out that the Hasselblad is a non hand hold able camera which I find really unbelievable. I'm up against the fast that a lot of die hard Hassy user nuts feel that way always using a tripod. Me I love tripods but I also am very happy about hand held. I've certainly made hundreds of 11x14's and 16x20s from hand held Hasselblad. HHHH. (hundreds of hand held Hasselblad) Pre clicking is loads of fun. You cram the camera up against your chest. Pre click. Then click. You are looking right at your subject and not at your camera. Its deeply satisfying. I wonder how long I'd have to work at B&H to get 15 grand set aside to get my Hassy system going again? A Hassy was all I ever wanted out of life ever since I was 12. On 7/21/14 9:53 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > Mark, > Beware the Siren's call... > Phase, at admittedly higher prices, allows all their offerings to be fitted > with HV back mounts (mine does...). The new PhaseOne IQ2XX models are CMOS. > The IQ260 is a 6micron pixel vs the Imacon 5.3micron pixel (10% reduction > in light capturing ability). The IQ260 is true 4x5; not quite 6x6 but a > much reduced crop factor. > > http://www.phaseone.com/en/Camera-Systems/IQ2-Series/IQ2-Specifications.aspx > > And I would suggest you read some about actual user experiences with CMOS > MFDBs. What is realistic ISO (not the marketing dept.). How do you > calibrate the camera to the back to ensure that what you see in the > viewfinder as in focus really is? Of course sharpness may not really matter > with handheld Hassy shooting (previously mentioned slap). What is the max > exposure time (12min Imacon, 1hr Phase) for those long, hand held shots! > ;-) > > Definitely try before you buy! You have had MFDB 4x5 for the Hassy out > there for years. Yes CMOS is great, but is it in MF? I think the jury may > still be out on that one... > Looking forward to seeing your results!!! :-) > Bob > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> I've shot all kinds of events and weddings with my Hasselblad with stuff >> going as fast breaking and tense as the war in El Salvador or any street >> riot.. Like about 80 of them. I did another 80 before that with Nikons. >> The shots I've gotten with square format chest held are just as >> spontaneous >> grabbers as my eye level slrs. Which is part of the reason I switched to >> medium format for that stuff. >> I think the work just out of Vivian Maier reminds us what is possible with >> chest held medium format shooting. Dianne Arbus before her. And others. >> Guys >> even! >> They don't care you are shooting. You can get everything. >> >> But in the old days of film our Hassy' s and Rolleis were not stuck with >> medium speed film in them. while the Nikon and Leica guys got theirs with >> 400 or 1600 film stuck in them. if that was the case there's have been a >> lot >> less work done with the larger format cameras. >> That WAS the case here with digital. >> Till this year. And today for my trusty 500c. And ELM. >> >> >> On 7/21/14 9:18 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at icloud.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think not but you're welcome to have a go at it ;~) >>> >>> Having shot Hasselblads for 5 decades with films up to 3200 ASA; >>> we both know that 3.5 whatever on the 500c will not shoot "just like >> I've been >>> shooting with my D700." >>> >>> Just as handling the Leica S2 or S does not equate to handling a Nikon or >>> Canon DSLR: >>> however alike they may appear next to each other on a fine walnut desk. >>> >>> Physics and optical science will get in the way of those fantasies. >>> Just as they did in the days of film. >>> >>> And your 100 mm will behave more like a 170 mm. >>> That mirror slap will continue to wage it's war on stillness. >>> >>> a note off the iPad, George >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well those are not CMOS which are the big news for potential digital >> medium >>>> format users as previously we had severe very low iso limitations >> making any >>>> of our digital medium format options not all around shooters but catalog >>>> shooters with tripods and lights. Now I can take my 500c out with my >> 100mm >>>> f3.5 CFi Planar T* or my 50mm and shoot just like I've been shooting >> with >>>> my D700. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/