Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/09/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think some people still want to use their M lens on a non-M9/M240/MM body, whether it's for the AF, small size, less costly or whatever reasons. Not me of course. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > Steve Barbour > > On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > > I am surprised no one suggested the obvious. > > Discussed here months ago... > > > If you want to use Leica glass on your Sony A7, use R glass. They will not > have the same set of problems WA M glass have > And they cost less. A lot less. > And you do not need to count cams > > > Frank Filippone > Red735i at verizon.net > > On Sep 6, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Frank Dernie <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> > wrote: > > I think Leica have come up with an offset for the microlenses which is a > reasonable compromise for the range of exit pupil-to-sensor distances for > the majority of Leica lenses. Some have the exit pupil even too close for > this offset and are not recommended but work, obviously, but sub-optimally. > Sony seem to assume the use of lenses designed for SLRs where the exit > pupil to sensor distance, even of WA lenses, is considerable. It would seem > they have made no provision for oblique rays round the periphery, or very > little. This will probably be OK for most SLR lenses, but can never be > optimum for rangefinder optimised WA lenses. I don't believe it will be > technically feasible to design a single lens which will be optimum for both > Leica and Sony cameras. > Frank D. > > > On 5 Sep, 2014, at 22:56, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > There is currently no M-mount 35mm that works well on the Sony a7r. It's > > more sensitive to ray angle than the Leica M's. The new Zeiss 35mm f/2 > > "Loxia" (say what?) "Biogon" for the Sony E mount is similar to the ZM > > version, but not the same. See > > > http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/loxia/loxia235.html > > > > I would expect Zeiss will coordinate the lines -- ZM and Sony E mount -- > to > > some extent. > > > > Apparently the Leica advantage in terms of the ray angle impact on image > > edge quality results, in part, from the thickness of the glass covering, > > not just (or even?) the microlenses, per se. The Sony cover glass is > much > > thicker. (Why?) > > > > I noticed Samsung recently had a press release on a process of theirs > > ("Isocell") that helps with edge smearing also. It isolates the pixel > > cells from each other more effectively, they say. See > > > http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/news-events/press-releases/detail?newsId=13041 > > > > > > It's interesting to think of each pixel as a separate optical system and > > what is needed for rays coming into it at different angles to be equally > > and effectively guided into the cell without any impact on adjacent cells > > -- not a simple task. > > > > It's also interesting to note that it's the cell phone market that has > much > > of the action. The latest photo to be put on my mantle is a cell phone > > print, and a very good one at that. Those who criticize Leica for > turning > > to a cell phone CMOS source should note that cell phones are also up to a > > pixel density that would translate into 100 MP for a full frame camera. > We > > have a lot more "progress" coming. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> It is supposed to be an M mount, and thus would be usable on both; with > an > >> adapter on the A7r. > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > http://leicarumors.com/2014/09/04/a-new-zeiss-distagon-351-4-zm-lens-leica-m-mount-to-be-announced-for-photokina.aspx/ > >>> > >>> > >>> If true, this is interesting. I hope they have designed this one to be > >>> compatible with both the Leica M and Sony a7r. I'll be more interested > >> in > >>> putting money into an optic that can serve both bodies than just one. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> www.PaulRoark.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Sonny > >> http://sonc.com/look/ > >> Natchitoches, Louisiana > >> 1714 > >> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > >> > >> USA > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto