Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/09/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]+1! What George said!! Tina On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM, George Lottermoser < george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Ted Grant wrote: > > > It's just today every time we , that's we all of us on the lug can't just > > walk in to a camera store and say... "hey I'll take the new LEICA B&W > > camera." Why? Hell man how many have $22,000 in yer back pocket to pay > for > > it ? The M cameras? Heck they're also at the top end of cost. AND AT THE > > MOMENT BEYOND MY REACH! :-( > > I understand all too well some of the points that are so often made re: > Leica Costs. > > Though let's get real. > I paid $6K for a Leica M (240) - 2014 dollars > I can use every M lens I own on the body. > I can use every R lens I own on the body. > It delivers superb image quality > which will hold its own with virtually any other 24x36 sensor. > > that $6K translates to $803.26 in 1965 dollars. > or $687 in 1955 dollars. > Which is about twice what an M3 actually cost in 1955. > And you had to feed that camera continuous film and processing costs. > > And you were buying them in sets of twos and threes. > As was every other news and magazine photographer on the planet. > > Today: > Canon EOS-1D C Camera (Body Only) $10K > Nikon D3X (Body Only) $7K > A Nikon D4 (Body only) $5K > > Nobody's denouncing Nikon and Canon > for making cameras that are WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. > > The fact that we can buy so-called Pro-Sumer models for $3K > which deliver wonderful files; > and ConSumer models for a fraction of that > is the only difference. > And the fact that they make hundreds of millions of the things. > > This shit ain't cheap no matter whose making it > > Top End Medium Format Backs (no camera body at all) $40K > > A lot of this Leica IS ONLY for dilettantes and collectors > qualifies as its own mythology > kept alive by Leica naysayers. > > We have serious, prolific, talented photographers on this list > who find the ways and means to photography with M8s, M9s, Ms, and MMs. > And there's many more lists out there with many more serious Leica > shooters. > > Used M8s sell every day for $1300 - $1800 > Used M9s continue to hold at or a bit over $3K > with M9-Ps going $500 to $1,000 more than that. > I saw an M Monochrom sell a couple weeks ago for $4,500. > > The same vintage Nikons and Canons do not do nearly as well by comparison. > > I'd be lucky to get $400 or $500 for my Canon 5D. > > Apples and apples > Oranges and oranges > > Everyone's mileage, needs, wants and desires will vary > > Regards, > George Lottermoser > > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com