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Subject: [Leica] Comparing Backlight B&W MM and Film
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 22:37:10 +0200
References: <32402C5B-142A-4463-A735-253A4CBFC4A4@gmail.com> <BC2300AA-DCC2-48CC-9B6C-5D0633C0E9E5@frozenlight.eu> <CAE3QcF7XXiKzXBU1wjZmtmNV2s0CHK4c5OSNaxh=CdCaL8bGyQ@mail.gmail.com> <0EA42628-FC07-4B34-9590-A9FEC4C517A9@gmail.com>

Thank you Sonny, Geoff, Nathan

I agree that the direct image on the sensor is better, the important point 
for me is the quality of the B&W and IMHO it demonstrates that B&W is 
exquisite.

Cheers
Lluis

El 07/10/2014, a las 13:03, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> escribi?:

> Of course, scanning takes you a generation away from the original. The MM 
> file is an original.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes all great shots. It is the content that is important of course. For 
>> web
>> size images the differences are more subtle.
>> When you talk about comparing you have to decide which things are 
>> important.
>> When you scan anything you are also limited by what the scanner can do as
>> well. The lens of the scanner and how accutarte it tracks and the contrast
>> and dynamic range it can record.
>> With the same camera lens and correct exposure and same subject the
>> Monochrom files are a LOT better than anything you can get with scanned
>> 35mm film as far as smoothness and tonal range and resolution.
>> Side by side you can see the difference. When you look at the files zoomed
>> in on a computer the differences are very obvious.
>> None of that may matter for web images.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>>> On 7 October 2014 15:02, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't see much difference, all are excellent.
>>> 
>>> Un abrazo,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> 
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 06 Oct 2014, at 03:25, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>> gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have scanned two film backlights from the year 2007 with Kodak Plus X,
>>> Leica MP, lens ignored. Plustek scanner and Vuescan :
>>>> 
>>>> Carrer del Correu Vell
>>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Miscellaneous/2007031228LR5BN.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Light Way
>>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Miscellaneous/2007031216LR5BN.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please compare to the Leica Monochrom with Tri Elmar recently posted:
>>>> 
>>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Miscellaneous/20141003_L1001068__MMLR5BN.jpg.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All these pictures have a slightly touch of Silver Efex Pro, same toning
>>> applied to all.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion I can't say any better quality on film vs MM, except the
>>> grain of course, I've don't put it on the MM version, I consider it is
>>> artificial. What do you think?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are greatly appreciated
>>>> 
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
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