Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks Geoff I was actually given an old ipad a few months ago I think the first version they made but I have to get my wifi working in here. Its recharging light is on. I think I'll get a smaller skinny one. I just dragged a microwave home from Home Depot I traveled light. But I had a fair sized paperback book in my topcoat pocket. I'm never without a real book. But I have Nook and iBooks in my iPhone 5 giving me all kinds of spur in the moment options. It sounds like you're doing a great job here and I'll probably get involved with it again one of these years. Especially if it goes all Leica. To me a Leica users list yearbook filled with photos taken with Leicas makes obvious sense though in the past I found myself amazingly to be in a small minority. I don't mind being in a minority. And I don't mind being wrong. But I don't think I am on this one. On 11/29/14 11:48 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > Mark maybe take a few deep breaths. Steve's comment about Tina actually was > simply something he mis-read, nothing more. > I have no idea who else talks to who off list about being in the book. > Amongst my friends when I've asked them off list, I have encouraged them to > contribute. > > Remember whether or not you contribute there is no obligation to buy. As > for who is in the book, of course you can read every name next to people's > photos. It's no secret. I won't be posting any list of contributors' names > to the LUG. I have been including a little running tally on the numbers in > my weekly reminder. We have 36 so far, 35 of whom are LUG people and one > person whom I invited who does some great photojournalist work with his > Leica. I have asked one other but he is yet to reply. > > Send me some photos for this edition if you want. You will be able to view > it on your iPad for about USD15 this year I think. > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > On 30 November 2014 at 14:17, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> I know you were in the first two Tina. >> Regardless I wonder why you'd need to be drawn out in public and be put on >> the spot as to your involvement with the project. I'd think that would be >> nobodies business but yours. They'd find out when the thing was published. >> >> In past years on the lug we were presented with a list. If you were not on >> it you were put on the spot and asked why you were not on it. I'm glad to >> see the Gestapo tactics are gone this year. >> >> Its interesting nobody asks you off list if you are going to be in the >> project or not. Its always on list. >> These bullying tactics just warm the cockles of my heart. >> And I can tell you threes only one why I respond to this kind of pressure. >> >> >> On 11/29/14 9:46 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What?? I think there was a copy problem. I have been in every single LUG >> book >>> so far !!! >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> Steve Barbour >>>> >>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Tmanley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I hope not. :-( I would hope that the appreciation would trump the >>>> aggravation. I've never done the LUG book >>>> >>>> Forgive me for asking Tina please, but we see so many of your images, >> why >>>> have you chosen not to contribute to the LUG book? >>>> >>>> steve >>>> >>>> >>>> but I have done many non-profit fund-raising projects and that has >> usually >>>> been true. The aggravation can be overwhelming but it ALWAYS turns out >> to be >>>> worth it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I stand corrected (and should have checked all eight editions)--you >> were >>>>> indeed in '06 and '07. >>>>> >>>>> However, you've just given a superb reason why I had no further >> interest >>>>> in producing the yearbook. I was sick of your garbage, and similar >>>>> diatribes from non-contributors (at least within the 2010s). >>>>> >>>>> Prattle on! You have every right to do so. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at >>>>> leica-users.org] >> On >>>>> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:59 PM >>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question >>>>> >>>>> I was in the first two issues, Ted. Two pix each all taken with Leica >>>>> cameras. All taken the same year they were published. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/29/14 6:57 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> AND FROM THE DARKENED HALLS OF THE PAST.................. A MAJOR >>>>>> BITE!!!!!!! And the quiet was deafening! >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers, >>>>>> Dr.ted >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Jim Shulman >>>>>> Sent: November-29-14 3:26 PM >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question >>>>>> >>>>>> The way I think about it is that in order to proffer suggestions you >>>>>> should be a part of the yearbook. >>>>>> As in as a participant. >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked the 2013 yearbook, and checked it twice. >>>>>> You didn't submit a thing. >>>>>> I checked the 2012 yearbook, and checked it twice. >>>>>> You didn't submit a thing. >>>>>> Same for 2011. I didn't go back any further, but to the best of my >>>>>> knowledge the LUG yearbooks have yet to be graced by your images. >>>>>> >>>>>> Did it ever occur to you, Mark, that you're part of the problem? >>>>>> Geoff and, for eight years, I received lots and lots of suggestions, >>>>>> gripes, requests, and relatively few entries. I noted that the people >>>>>> with the greatest number of suggestions, or gripes about the >>>>>> admittedly elementary submission guidelines, were almost never >>>>> contributors. >>>>>> >>>>>> So put up or shut up. There's still about a half-month to submit your >>>>>> images. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: LUG >>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:12 PM >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question >>>>>> >>>>>> They way I think about it is if you're going to do something why not >>>>>> let more than just a few people see it? I love books I'm about to hit >>>>>> some bookstores this afternoon made a list checking it twice but for >>>>>> every person who reads and looks at paper there's thousands who are >>>>>> getting the same words and pix as pixels. >>>>>> I love PDF 's. I think the guy you invented them should get the Noble >>>>>> Peace prize. If I'd gone to the trouble to layout a photo book such as >>>>>> this it would drive my crazy not being able to press the "make PDF >>>>> button" >>>>>> in the end. If you think about it the preview software which lets >>>>>> people peek into the book on the website has kind of done that. >>>>>> I think when people know ahead of time that the layout will be >>>>>> electronically disseminated few if any would have a problem with that. >>>>>> If they do let them rot in their own hells. >>>>>> People want to see their book on their iPad's and iPhones. >>>>>> More importantly they want to never put their iPad's and iPhones down. >>>>>> They want to keep staring at them. >>>>>> Let them. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said I don't think the reason behind a LUG book such as this is >>>>>> to make money. How many extra copies did they sell does anyone know? >>>>>> If there really is a market for a book such as the LUG Yearbook than >>>>>> in electronic form I'd wager that market would be 100x. ... To 1000x. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/28/14 11:15 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did a test convert of another non-related photobook that I edited >>>>>>> and published an eBook version as a test. I don't have my iPad with >>>>>>> me to check as yet, but it looks like it should work fine on IOS >>>>>>> devices, not just iPads. >>>>>>> When you buy you get a download link in a mail to be opened on the >>>>>>> device where you want to download it. In other words, one download, >>>>>>> one >>>>>> device. >>>>>>> I shall report in when I get that test on on my (first) iPad which >>>>>>> went to a family meber who will like to have that particular book. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My intent introducing the eBook this year was to broaden the sales >>>>>>> while each copy (print or electronic) will generate exactly the same >>>>>>> markup for Jim's charity. As a glass half full approach I hope that >>>>>>> people will enjoy having the printed volume on their shelf to enjoy >>>>>>> and perhaps add an eBook to their order. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I have no connection with all eight books that Jim did with >>>>>>> us of course, except to be in them all. >>>>>>> I would note that it does require some work to convert each book and >>>>>>> then publish it. >>>>>>> Of course it is entirely up to Jim on whether this option (not always >>>>>>> available) is worth doing and if he wants to be pushed out of >>>>>>> retirement to work again on any of those eight! >>>>>>> For whatever my opinion is worth, I thinks it's a big ask on Jim >>>>>>> after eight years of a lot of work for us all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me, Jim, sorry. I hope my decision for THIS year will >>>>>>> mean more copies sold than we would have otherwise and more money to >>>>>>> your >>>>>> charity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 November 2014 at 13:12, Jay Burleson <leica at >>>>>>>> jayburleson.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looking at a post today and a question was asked about the proposed >>>>>>>> e-book version of this years book. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I am wondering, is if the previous years books can be changed >>>>>>>> in Blurb to add an e-book option? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be a way for folks to add to their collection at a >>>>>>>> reasonable cost, plus add some more to the donation funds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas, Jim? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>> Photographer >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>> Photographer >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/