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Subject: [Leica] Two from The Online Photographer
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 08:08:12 -0800
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I will definitely check it out! Thanks Ken.
I still have my, my father's, and my grandfather's vinyl.  I need to
overhaul my Linn and put them on occasionally. That's the real deal!
Best,
Bob

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Very sorry Sonny.
> Interesting though about the "sonny boy". When I was growing up, some
> called me Bobby Boy...
> So youthful... perhaps I should go back to that...
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Funny that you spelled my name Sony.  My chief engineer used to call me
>> "Sony" all the time....
>>
>> The story goes that when Mr. Morita was starting Sony he wanted to name it
>> Sonny, because they were the young engineers.
>>
>> Wikipedia:   He created *Sony* from a combination of *sonus* and the
>> English phrase *sonny boy*, which "conveyed to him the youthful energy and
>> irreverence he wanted at the heart of the company." (Because "o" is
>> pronounced in Japanese with a long vowel sound, the connection between
>> "Sony" and "sonny" is not apparent to English speakers.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > All good to know, Geoff and Sony: stuff I didn't know as just a
>> consumer of
>> > former products. I loved the fidelity of my Betamax: used to play and
>> watch
>> > great movies, esp. opera's, over and over. Had a very nice collection.
>> > I guess once burned, shame on me...
>> > As for the M8, I'm not sure that info was available to those of us not
>> well
>> > connected to Leica: not widely announced for what I recall. Glad to hear
>> > it: Means my M240 may have a useful life longer than 3-5 years, though
>> my
>> > desire for the next best from Leica may not last that long :-)
>> >
>> > I guess the bottom line is that the Leica takes the images I want and I
>> > love using it. Hard to say about most other consumables: my car does the
>> > same as does the Alpa/Phase system. 2 seems to be plenty for a
>> non-traveler
>> > like me. I did buy the Fuji for Jane, my wife, which I can use as a
>> backup
>> > if ever needed.
>> >
>> > And I do love the innovative thinking of Sony and Fuji: I think Leica
>> will
>> > certainly use some of their ideas in the future. Will certainly be slow
>> to
>> > market as per Leica's long history, but it will be quality and Leica
>> like
>> > in handling no doubt.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for the education!
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > As far as Sony not making lenses; they do have an array.  Six are out,
>> > > (five and one nearly out,) but of course, they do have other lenses in
>> > the
>> > > lineup that will fit the A7x line with and without adapters.   The
>> camera
>> > > has a mode to run E mount (NEX) lenses without vignetting.   One of
>> the
>> > > available adapters translates autofocus for the A mount lenses to the
>> A7
>> > > camera.
>> > >
>> > > 6  full frame full frame FE   (for A7x series)
>> > >
>> > > 6 E mount   (apc size NEX)
>> > >
>> > > 12   A mount    (Konica A Mount) (will autocrop on Sony full frame
>> > cameras
>> > >
>> > > 24  full frame A mount   (K A mount full frame)
>> > >
>> > > 2 A mount adapters  for E mount cameras
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://store.sony.com/full-frame-E-mount-lenses/cat-27-catid-All-Full-Frame-E-Mount-Lenses
>> > >
>> > > SonC
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Bob,
>> > > >
>> > > > I hear your pain about Beta, but it was bettah.   Funny thing, I
>> had it
>> > > at
>> > > > home, and kept using it for my off-air recordings quite happily as
>> it
>> > was
>> > > > head and shoulders over VHS.  (I still have my machine.)  We had a
>> VHS
>> > > > machine for rental tapes.
>> > > >
>> > > > On the other hand, in the broadcast field, by the early eighties,
>> Beta
>> > > > morphed into Betacam and became the standard for broadcast. We used
>> it
>> > > for
>> > > > Electronic News Gathering for a long time and is still used for
>> > archiving
>> > > > in a many places.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Indeed! I got screwed by Betamax and have never bought into Sony
>> ideas
>> > > >> that
>> > > >> have their foundation in proprietary tech since. Betamax was of
>> much
>> > > >> higher
>> > > >> quality than VHS, if anyone remembers. I'm all about quality (this
>> is
>> > a
>> > > >> Leica list, yes?). Then poof, it was gone. My player broke a year
>> > later
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> that was that.
>> > > >> They came out with stereo minidiscs that were supposed to be the
>> > > >> audiophile's dream come true for digital music portability. Gone
>> in 2
>> > > >> years: poof! Glad I didn't buy into that.
>> > > >> Fuji may do the same, but certainly seems committed. Leica has
>> finally
>> > > >> stepped up to the digital plate, albeit slowly and somewhat behind
>> the
>> > > big
>> > > >> tech companies. But is sure is still around and still a quality
>> > > product. A
>> > > >> bit disconcerting with dropping support of the M8 though (did
>> they?).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Henning Wulff <
>> > henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On 2014-12-03, at 12:12 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <
>> jayanand at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > Another interesting one - Sony vs Fuji:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/12/the-big-difference-between-sony-and-fuji.html
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Cheers
>> > > >> > > Jayanand
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > That's pretty much what I've always thought about Sony and Fuji
>> as
>> > > well.
>> > > >> > On top of that, Sony seems to have this incredible itch to go off
>> > in a
>> > > >> > completely new direction every 6 months.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Henning Wulff
>> > > >> > henningw at archiphoto.com
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > > >> > Leica Users Group.
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>> > information
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Bob Adler
>> > > >>
>> > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> Leica Users Group.
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>> information
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Sonny
>> > > > http://sonc.com/look/
>> > > > Natchitoches, Louisiana
>> > > > 1714
>> > > > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>> > > >
>> > > > USA
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Sonny
>> > > http://sonc.com/look/
>> > > Natchitoches, Louisiana
>> > > 1714
>> > > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>> > >
>> > > USA
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Leica Users Group.
>> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bob Adler
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Leica Users Group.
>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sonny
>> http://sonc.com/look/
>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>> 1714
>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>
>> USA
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Adler
>



-- 
Bob Adler


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