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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux and Sony A7?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 05:00:49 -0800
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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Sony a7s is absolutely silent in silent mode, with no perceptible lag
> on manual focus, and barely any on AF.
> 
> In non-silent mode, it is much quieter than the A7 or the A7r.
> 
> I think it might be pretty easy to focus a Noctilux on this camera.  It
> sure isn't hard to focus a Summilux wide open.


certainly that has been my experience.

s


> 
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> With the M it can be done at anytime with Live view. But does it matter?
>> So you know it's out: now what? With the sony (or any EVF) WYSIWYG.
>> 
>> I guess with the Sony, if there is little shutter lag, the EVF focusing
>> would be great. Is there? Is the newest Sony quieter with less lag? The 
>> M's
>> lag with EVF just kills getting the moment. Using the M's range finder is
>> only limited by your predictive/reactive capabilities. Personally I think
>> at close distance at f1 it's a crap shoot whatever you use. Chances are
>> better the further away you get. Physics rules.
>> 
>> I'd like to try a Sony someday. See how the Nocti works... Let's get
>> together!!
>> :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Steve, This will be a very interesting test. I have to tell
>> you that I?ve get a big improvement on my Lux 75 after I?ve sent it to
>> Wetzlar to be calibrated, at the same time I?ve ordered add the 6 bit
>> coding, but I think this has not any influence in focusing precision.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> calibration helps, but there is no way a week later or a year later, to
>> know if it remains in the same good calibration....aye there's the rub...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Amiti?s
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> escribi?:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your Hospital images are unforgettable!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> you are very kind Lluis, here I am thinking of the technical issues
>> only, I may when time allows simply do a series of dandelion shots: w 
>> Nocti
>> at f1   and Summilux 75mm at f1.4,  on the Sony 7,  to have a look...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:16, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>> escribi?:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sonny,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I?ve never owned a Noctilux, just play with some ones borrowed by
>> friends but what do you say is in my opinion one of the characteristics
>> things of this lens, it is difficult obtain a perfect picture but when yo
>> got it it is exceptional?!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> exactly Lluis, a major reason why it's difficult, is the need to
>> obtain perfect  focus at f1. When you focus imo with a Sony EVF with focus
>> peaking, it's far easier to nail the focus....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my experience with focussing a Noctilux at f1 derived from my
>> earlier kids in hospital images....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> El 12/12/2014, a las 22:57, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>> escribi?:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The point is to walk away with the image that you had in mind.
>> The image
>>>>>>>>> that I wanted to show you.  Look! See what I see?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was unsuccessful with a Noctilux and made maybe three really
>> wonderful
>>>>>>>>> shots in the year I owned it, and a couple dozen I liked.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (Ironically, two of the shots were made into posters and sold
>> several
>>>>>>>>> hundred copies for the Natchitoches Historic Foundation.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If I
>>>>>>>>> ?still ?
>>>>>>>>> had it with a Sony or an M, I would be out there with it glued to
>> my
>>>>>>>>> camera, because I'm crazy for available dark pictures
>>>>>>>>> ?, and I know I'd be lovin' it and you guys would be lookin' at
>> that EXIF
>>>>>>>>> line and wishing you were me.  ;-)?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> 
> USA
> 
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