Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks. Decisions to be made... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > > Bob, a show stopper if you think that any significant proportion of the > Monochrom cameras have experienced a sensor issue. The risk of a defect is > not zero of course. You could try to find any reported instances of this > anywhere on the web perhaps? Make your own judgement on the internet > discussions? Obviously there have been thousands of the M Monochrom > manufactured and something more than 30,000 M9's at least. > > You could also read the official commitment and statement from Leica Camera > on their websites/blog etc. Better than rumour sites! > The RF is the same as for all M bodies from the M6 forward until the M (typ > 240) of course. > That in the M (typ 240) is calibrated to higher standards now with newer > equipment too. I can't say if it is actually more robust. I never had an > issue there from the M6 forward. > I did manage to knock mine out of vertical displacement when I dropped it > from standing onto stone cobbles. I can hardly complain at that. It is a > tribute to how strong the new construction is though that the camera body > got no more than 2 pin prick size marks on the top plate (yes the corner > with the RF) on impact and bouncing after the hood on my lens was crushed > > A replacement monochrom version with the new sensor has been speculated at > but I'm not aware of even a single rumour that this is going to happen. > Their product cycle tends to be around 3 years for digital body designs, > for whatever can be read into that! > > My personal choice for BW in this format is developing from the DNG > originals from the M because I value its other improvements. For sure the > Monochrom is being used to make some superb quality BW images. > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > On 12 December 2014 at 08:44, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > > > So I wonder if it's worth getting the MM... It has the M9 rangefinder > > mechanism that is, frankly, pretty awful in holding alignment compared to > > the 240 and now the sensor problems. As my Nocti would probably be glued > to > > the MM, this is probably show stopper. I can check the Nocti with the 240 > > live view: the RF is still aligned. > > > > Any opinions? Is there an MM 240 in the works?? > > Just mulling it all over. > > Bob > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Robert Baron <robertbaron1 at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > You're right, it is just the M-9, M9-P, M-E and M Monochrom. I misread > > the > > > portion about Past Issues. > > > > > > --Bob > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:25 AM, zoeica at mac.com <zoeica at mac.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > M8 used a different sensor so no affected. Sucks if Leica really knew > > > > about this when manufacturing was taking place. > > > > > > > > Yes, it's nothing new in the digital age. Both Canon and Nikon have > had > > > > sensor issues before and both were slow to acknowledge it even though > > it > > > > was clearly an issue with users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Williams > > > > www.zoeicaimages.net > > > > 504-231-6261 > > > > > > > > ----- Reply message ----- > > > > From: "Robert Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com> > > > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Subject: [Leica] Leica M8 and M9 Sensor Problems? > > > > Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 11:16 AM > > > > > > > > I just stumbled across this and wondered if it had been discussed on > > the > > > > LUG (I'm a very sporadic reader lately): > > > > > > > > http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot > > > > > > > > It is a pretty long piece but if you read it to the bottom you'll > > perhaps > > > > find some troubling - if true - information. On the other hand, this > > all > > > > may just be 'the cost of doing business' in the digital age. > > > > > > > > --Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Adler > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Bob Adler