Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You may find it harder to use on digital than film.... john ________________________________________ From: LUG [lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] on behalf of Mark Rabiner [mark at rabinergroup.com] Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2014 6:10 p.m. To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux and Sony A7? The f1 doesn't get all that close personally I covered myself but giving myself plenty to chose from in any situation but I didn't really miss that many shots with my 2 M6 rangefinders at f1. People are always talking for years on the lug about how non viable the Noctilux f1 has been. They say you canst use it like a normal lens. They say you cant stop down. They say you cant focus. The list goes on and on. I've found NONE of those things to be true with my own shooting. Not one. The Noctilux f1 has long been a lens which people use very carefully for a couple of years because they fully plan and selling it after a couple of years. They just want to say they had one.... Been there done that. They seldom have anything to show for it. Except some trumped up negative opinion to justify trading it in for the newest body. Its mainly a way to tie up some liquid assets with a red dot on it. It's more fun than a stack of greenbacks.. It deserves more. As does the f .95 Both are a perfect match for the long standing Leica rangefinder system. On 12/12/14 11:54 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > With the M it can be done at anytime with Live view. But does it matter? So > you know it's out: now what? With the sony (or any EVF) WYSIWYG. I guess > with the Sony, if there is little shutter lag, the EVF focusing would be > great. Is there? Is the newest Sony quieter with less lag? The M's lag with > EVF just kills getting the moment. Using the M's range finder is only > limited > by your predictive/reactive capabilities. Personally I think at close > distance > at f1 it's a crap shoot whatever you use. Chances are better the further > away > you get. Physics rules. I'd like to try a Sony someday. See how the Nocti > works... Let's get together!! :-) Sent from my iPad > On Dec 12, 2014, at > 4:52 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Dec 12, > 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> Thank you Steve, This will be a very interesting test. I have to tell you > that I?ve get a big improvement on my Lux 75 after I?ve sent it to Wetzlar > to > be calibrated, at the same time I?ve ordered add the 6 bit coding, but I > think > this has not any influence in focusing precision. > > > calibration helps, > but there is no way a week later or a year later, to know if it remains in > the > same good calibration....aye there's the rub... > > >> >> Amiti?s >> > Lluis >> >>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:40, Steve Barbour > <steve.barbour at gmail.com> escribi?: >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:25 > PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Your > Hospital images are unforgettable! >>> >>> >>> you are very kind Lluis, here > I am thinking of the technical issues only, I may when time allows simply > do a > series of dandelion shots: w Nocti at f1 and Summilux 75mm at f1.4, on > the > Sony 7, to have a look... >>> >>> >>> steve >>> >>> >>>> Amiti?s >>>> > Lluis >>>> >>>> >>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:16, Steve Barbour > <steve.barbour at gmail.com> escribi?: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at > 4:07 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Sonny, >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ve never owned a Noctilux, just play with some ones > borrowed by friends but what do you say is in my opinion one of the > characteristics things of this lens, it is difficult obtain a perfect > picture > but when yo got it it is exceptional?! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> exactly Lluis, a > major reason why it's difficult, is the need to obtain perfect focus at > f1. > When you focus imo with a Sony EVF with focus peaking, it's far easier to > nail > the focus.... >>>>> >>>>> my experience with focussing a Noctilux at f1 > derived from my earlier kids in hospital images.... >>>>> >>>>> steve >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Lluis >>>>>> >>>>>>> El 12/12/2014, a > las 22:57, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> escribi?: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The > point is to walk away with the image that you had in mind. The image >>>>>>> > that I wanted to show you. Look! See what I see? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was > unsuccessful with a Noctilux and made maybe three really wonderful >>>>>>> > shots in the year I owned it, and a couple dozen I liked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > (Ironically, two of the shots were made into posters and sold several >>>>>>> > hundred copies for the Natchitoches Historic Foundation.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If > I >>>>>>> ?still ? >>>>>>> had it with a Sony or an M, I would be out there > with it glued to my >>>>>>> camera, because I'm crazy for available dark > pictures >>>>>>> ?, and I know I'd be lovin' it and you guys would be lookin' > at that EXIF >>>>>>> line and wishing you were me. ;-)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sonny >>>>>>> > http://sonc.com/look/ >>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana >>>>>>> 1714 >>>>>>>