Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I guess you cannot be convinced with technical facts. Try this out.... How many HDD crash without warning? Richard Man's crashed last week. You think HIS files are intact any more on that disk? Even if you do not believe us about magnetic bits going wonky, do backups anyway. And refresh them at least once a year... or more often. You may do it for the wrong reason, but at least you are doing it...... Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:32 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: So much for "film is forever".. Importance: Low I have been Binging and Googling "photography old digital files corrupted" and you'd think one person in the world in the last 15 years of digital photography must have expensed it especially since we're being told not that digital media only lasts ten years tops. I'm coming up with Jack on this the only thing I seem to find is when peoples memory cards give out on them there is recovering software to bring some of those images back. Nothing not one thing on pictures on a hard disk no longer openable or looking wonky. I'm back to feeling much more at ease in the state of my digital body of work. On 5/15/15 1:21 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I think the fact that while most of us have switched to digital our > body of work is now (roughly since the year 2000) is in danger is very > on topic as I think its big news where can I sell my digital bodies > and re buy back my film ones?!? > > I'd like to hear a roll count on the LUG of people whose old digital > files have given up on them or have gotten all wonky. Other side known > as digital fading. > I'm being told by you that my digital files are deteriorating I JUST > CAN SEE IT.!! > > I don't think when you back up digitally to do it redundantly is the > end of the world. I used to back up my whole hard disk with floppies. > A stack of them many inches thick. And I had several sets of them in > case one of them was bad and for other reasons. It was an automatic process but doable. > Now its just copying one hard disk to another sometimes a slightly bigger one. > Can be done in ones sleep. > > > On 5/14/15 7:16 PM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote: > >> We are going way off topic here so this is my last comment. I did not >> say to store your digital media using microfiche. >> >> I am aware of a group of digital archivist (including someone from >> NIST) working on how to preserve digital media in a standardized fashion. >> >> Best practice digital media preservation currently require regular >> active copying and indefinite transcription of digital media to >> protect again deterioration of storage media and format obsolescence. >> >> If you are not doing both, your stored media is likely to stay >> ephemeral despite of what you believe. >> >> Mark, do as you wish but 1?s magically becomes 0?s in digital media >> whether you believe it?s going to happen or not. Good Luck. >> >> Regards, >> Spencer >> >>> On May 14, 2015, at 16:17, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>> >>> From the Library of Congress (USA) >>> "Does the Library of Congress recommend microfilming or digitization >>> for reformatting institutional collections?.... >>> >>> " That said, the end of microfilming is near, despite it's >>> relatively low cost and the several hundred year projected lifetime of preservation film. >>> The National Endowment for the Humanities no longer funds grants for >>> microfilming and microfilm readers are increasingly difficult to >>> maintain and service." >>> >>> http://www.loc.gov/preservation/about/faqs/reformatting.html#prescop >>> y >>> >>> Recognizing Digitization as a Preservation Reformatting Method >>> http://chnm.gmu.edu/digitalhistory/links/pdf/preserving/8_34a.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/14/15 1:17 AM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Canadian Archive uses microfiche which are stable for 100+ years >>>> (or acid-free paper for documents). The Canadian census was stored >>>> that way. ?was? because >>> I am not sure we have a real census any >>>> more. >>> >>> Digital storage is very >>>> ephemeral. I doubt if most digital storage will last more than 10 years. >>>> Those >>>> 1?s randomly change to 0?s far too frequently. I don?t think >>>> archivist like digital media very much. >>>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica >>>> Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information