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Subject: [Leica] [IMG] PESO - Market flowers -Ted, Jim, Douglas, Lluis
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:56:02 +0100
References: <40139e71-025f-e610-b327-0f08d22e9e00@summaventures.com> <001401d1f1cb$61158370$23408a50$@ca>

Hi guys,

I really am fascinated by the range of responses. Very interesting and just 
what
the LUG is all about. I asked for constructive C&C and I got exactly what I
asked for. I'd be fascinated to hear in more detail from anyone who wants to
give more detail, why they feel what they do

So here is a bit more of what happened from my perspective. I was sitting in 
a
caf? on the edge of the market and saw this. I really didn't like the 
saturated
colours of the grasses and flowers but the overall structure appealed to me. 
I
suppose that I previsualised it in B&W.

I wanted to convey the heat of the day (it was 43C in the sun) and the 
light, as
well as the structure. I would have liked the stall holder and his clients 
to be
nearer, but that wasn't going to happen if I wanted the flowers in the 
foreground.

The biggest problem in processing was the harsh light on the Church 
(contributed
to in large part by the Marquis de Sade's ancestors), which I didn't want to
swamp everything, combined with the distribution of the deep shadows in the
middle ground and the light on the foreground flowers.

I do shoot for colour but I prefer more muted tones. I have some examples 
from
the same day which I will post later.

Why in B&W? I just find it a more natural medium to work in. It often makes 
it
difficult to get the shots that you want; but as I said earlier I don't like
things to look too much like a postcard. In that part of the world all the 
cards
are swamped with saturated colours which definitely aren't the colours of 
Provence.

Ted: - perhaps this explains a bit more of what was going through my head.

Douglas: -  surely flowers do have souls ;-) even when they have been dyed 
livid
red or yellow!

Jim - I see what you are trying to get at, but for me it doesn't quite
work...the church really isn't that colour but I do prefer the more muted 
tones.
I used ColourEfex for the B&W conversion and PSE 12 for most of the rest of 
the
work.

Lluis - many thanks, but I really do prefer the B&W. What do you mean by
"usual"? The more obvious way to shoot it?

All: - as an after thought I did wonder at the time what the LUG would think 
and
who would shoot it which way :-) :-)

Regards,

Peter



On 09/08/2016 00:19, Ted Grant wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> You know my quote about B&W, colour and peoples clothes? :-) 
> Every once in awhile on the LUG I see a shot the complete opposite of the
> quotation. 
> In your photo here I'd have shot that in colour as the subject appeared to
> pertain more to a "market flower situation???" rather than people & 
> clothes?
> By the same token we shoot our photos on the bases of "Too each his own
> feelings." But I was just curious?
> 
> cheers,
> ted Grant
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Peter Dzwig
> Sent: August-08-16 2:20 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: [Leica] [IMG] PESO - Market flowers
> 
> All,
> 
> Flower stall in the market at Isle-sur-Sorgue
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/PESO2011/Marketplace+-+Ile-sur-
> Sorgue+-+1-1.jpg.html>
> 
> 
> Viewing large shows more detail.
> 
> Fuji XE2
> 
> Your comments and constructive criticisms are as always welcome,
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to look.
> 
> Peter Dzwig
> 
> 
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