Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/11/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Any one who is crazy enough to care about my political opinions can check out my FB, On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Tina my dear. > I have so many USA friends here and all over the USA. Who've vented their > feelings on my wearying shoulders these past two days. > I very much feel for you folks as I surely wouldn't want to be in your > situation as a "WINNER or LOSER?" STILL TOO MANY QUESTIONS? > My simple clean advice in either case, win or lose? Is let it rest for now > as much as you all can. > Put the shock & awe behind you and wait and see what happens? > I suppose we can and will be surprised what happens, compared to what was > said on the campaign? > WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS? > GOOD=BAD OR UGLY? > WELL THAT'S FOR THE WORLD TO YET FIND OUT???? > My most heartfelt feelings for all! WHY? > WAY TOO MANY QUESTIONS WITHOUT THE ACTUAL REAL TIME ANSWERS! > REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS SAID! > cheers, > Dr. ted Grant CM. ORDER of CANADA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf > Of Tina Manley > Sent: November-10-16 2:41 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up > > Ted - > > This should all be moved to the forum, but a word of explanation first. We > in the USA are going through the five stages of grief and loss. I, for > one, still cannot believe what happened on Tuesday night. I have not > recovered. We have to go through 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. > Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. > > I'm not sure I'll ever get to acceptance, but I'm in anger right now. > > Yes, I've been going back through old photos and posting some on FB. That > is some consolation to me that there was a past and there might be a > future. > > Tina > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > oH PLEASE,LET'S PUT IT BEHIND US ALL! > > NONE OF US, particularly me!" Can change anything. Forget the politics! > No > > matter how you feel? None of you are going to change anything "TODAY!" > > If the sun happens to be shining? Nip outside and give yourself a moment > > assignment to look for an image? GO CLICK! IT'S A BEAUTY! SMILE! GO AND > > POST > > IT! :-) > > We'll smile, pat you on the back whomever you are and we'll quietly slip > > back into our normal life of being "HAPPY SNAPPING PHOTOGS!" > > THANK YOU ALL! > > cheers, > > Dr. Ted Grant C.M. CANADA MEDAL. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Christopher Crawford > > Sent: November-10-16 1:19 PM > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up > > Importance: Low > > > > Are you being deliberately obtuse? > > > > Of course I earn my living doing photography. The work I post here is not > > my commercial work. Its not very interesting, but it pays the bills. I > > don?t expect anyone here to buy my prints, but when you come on here > > telling me what I SHOULD be photographing, then you need to pay me for > > working for you. Since you aren?t hiring me, I will continue to shoot and > > post what I want and if you don?t like it that?s just too damned bad. > > > > -- > > Chris Crawford > > Fine Art Photography > > Fort Wayne, Indiana > > 260-437-8990 > > > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > > > > > On 11/10/16, 3:50 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe Amard" > > <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of > > photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >I don't know about the details Chris, but you told me/us you worked for > > >the > > >money. > > > > > >For me that's a good reason to shoot; the keyword is survival. > > > > > >Yet, is it a good reason to share your commercial art on the lug and > other > > >lists? > > > > > >How many of us luggers, Oly users and others have bought your prints? > > > > > >The LUG and the Oly list are not market squares, they're for friendship, > > >openness and photography or vice-versa. > > > > > >Locked in your own world, how many times have you congratulated any of > the > > >other posters? > > > > > >What do you share with them, us, me? Bucks? > > > > > >I'm sorry this appalling episode in your history takes us all so much > way > > >downwards, really sorry. > > > > > >Philippe > > > > > > > > > > > >2016-11-10 21:25 GMT+01:00 Christopher Crawford < > > >chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>: > > > > > >> Steve?s attacking me because he thinks that I am posting these photos > to > > >> support Trump. I?m not. As I have said MULTIPLE times, I am > documenting > > >> the culture and people of Indiana. Like it or not, Indiana?s people > > >> supported Trump. That?s what I documented. > > >> > > >> Steve?s comment that I need to take ?good pictures? is like someone > > >>online > > >> going out of their way to criticize another poster?s spelling because > > >>they > > >> didn?t have the courage or the intelligence to criticize the ideas in > > >>the > > >> post. > > >> > > >> As I have stated, I will not be bullied by narrow minded people into > > >> changing what I photograph. Don?t like my work? Don?t look at it. Its > as > > >> simple as that. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Chris Crawford > > >> Fine Art Photography > > >> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >> 260-437-8990 > > >> > > >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > >> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > > >> Become a fan on Facebook > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 11/10/16, 2:30 PM, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry" > > >> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf > of > > >> imra at iol.ie> wrote: > > >> > > >> >Oh, I now see what Steve B wrote to rile Chris. I've moved it up in > > >>this > > >> >email to make it easier to see. Steve, it seems a strange place to > > >>bury a > > >> >fairly inflammatory comment. > > >> > > > >> >What are you trying to achieve? > > >> > > > >> >Douglas > > >> > > > >> >>>>> > > >> >> Chris, > > >> >> > > >> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that > > >> >>make > > >> >> people think. > > >> >> > > >> >> steve > > >> >>>>> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > > >> >To: "LUG list" <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:28 PM > > >> >Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Gee guys it's all over in less than 24 hours! > > >> >>> "DO PLEASE TRY AND GET ALONG?" :-) > > >> >>> I mean you've had near two years to vent this stuff and here we > are > > >> >>> voting > > >> >>> day and you are at each other's throats like a couple of wild > > >> >>>roosters > > >> >>> at a > > >> >>> hen party! :-) > > >> >>> My suggestion? Not that it means anything in your country. But > it's > > >> >>>going > > >> >>> to > > >> >>> be > > >> >>> "FAR MORE INTERESTING TOMORROW AFTER RESULTS COME OUT!" Actually > > >>quite > > >> >>> wild > > >> >>> I bet? "CLOSE the HATCHES & dive deep!" > > >> >>> Be good boys until it's over, Thank you. > > >> >>> Now take two aspirins and call me after 10 a.m. tomorrow. Thank > you > > >> >>>most > > >> >>> kindly. :-) > > >> >>> Now relax! > > >> >>> CHRIS: you go look for signs! :-) > > >> >>> SONNY: You go look for flowers in Adrian's garden! :-) > > >> >>> Now don't you both feel better? :-) :-) > > >> >>> Jeeeessh I hope this avoids a CIVIL WAR? :-) > > >> >>> KINDEST REGARDS TO BOTH. > > >> >>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. Order of Canada > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > > >> >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] > On > > >> >>>Behalf > > >> >>> Of > > >> >>> Christopher Crawford > > >> >>> Sent: November-07-16 7:38 PM > > >> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> >>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up > > >> >>> Importance: Low > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Sonny, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Tina Manley implied earlier today (post subject: Milestone) that > she > > >> >>> might > > >> >>> leave the country if the election doesn?t turn out as she likes. I > > >> >>>didn?t > > >> >>> see any of your shrill outrage over that. To be clear, I am not > > >>upset > > >> >>>by > > >> >>> Tina?s post; its a free country and if she wants to leave its her > > >> >>>right. > > >> >>> It?ll be a great loss to our nation; but its her right to live > where > > >> >>>she > > >> >>> wishes, and her right to voice her opinions. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> As I said in my last reply to you, I am not going to stop what I > am > > >> >>> doing. > > >> >>> I explained why quite clearly, and I stand by it. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> Chris Crawford > > >> >>> Fine Art Photography > > >> >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >> >>> 260-437-8990 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > > >> >>> Become a fan on Facebook > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On 11/7/16, 10:03 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" > > >> >>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on > behalf > > >>of > > >> >>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> My comment was not about your art. There are plenty places to > > >>voice > > >> >>>> your > > >> >>>> opinion, and the forum is one such place. Don't embarrass > yourself. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> from my iPad > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Sonny Carter > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Crawford > > >> >>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> I?m not going to stop voicing my opinions. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> That is my job, I am an artist. We make people think and we > > >>sometimes > > >> >>>>> make > > >> >>>>> people uncomfortable. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Chris, > > >> >> > > >> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that > > >> >>make > > >> >> people think. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> steve > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Those of us who work in the medium of photography > > >> >>>>> document life; we?re historians, sociologists, psychologists, > > >> >>>>> anthropologists, and artists all wrapped into one. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> Sometimes the real world is crazy, scary, dangerous, > uncivilized, > > >>and > > >> >>>>> cruel. We cannot put our heads in the sand and refuse to > confront > > >>our > > >> >>>>> world; to do so allows the triumph of evil. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> -- > > >> >>>>> Chris Crawford > > >> >>>>> Fine Art Photography > > >> >>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >> >>>>> 260-437-8990 > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > > >> >>>>> Become a fan on Facebook > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> On 11/7/16, 8:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter" > > >> >>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on > > >>behalf > > >> >>>>>of > > >> >>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>> I stood up for you when the subject of your images was under > fire > > >> >>>>>> here. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> However, when you voice your own political opinion, I'll > suggest > > >>you > > >> >>>>>> take > > >> >>>>>> it to the forum. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Thanks, > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> from my iPad > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Sonny Carter > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Crawford > > >> >>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> This sign pretty much sums up my feelings about the 2016 > > >> >>>>>>>Presidential > > >> >>>>>>> Election. Lock Both Up. > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> This handmade sign was posted in the middle of West State > > >> >>>>>>>Boulevard > > >> >>>>>>> on > > >> >>>>>>> the > > >> >>>>>>> western edge of Fort Wayne, Indiana. > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?product=2535 > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> -- > > >> >>>>>>> Chris Crawford > > >> >>>>>>> Fine Art Photography > > >> >>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >> >>>>>>> 260-437-8990 > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/ > 48229272798 > > >> >>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > >> >>>>>>>information > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > >> information > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>>>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > >>information > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > >>information > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > information > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> --- > > >> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > software. > > >> >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >> >>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>> Leica Users Group. > > >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > information > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> Leica Users Group. > > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >_______________________________________________ > > >> >Leica Users Group. > > >> >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leica Users Group. > > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0- > 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- "Some People Drive, We Are Driven" // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> richardmanphoto on Facebook and Instagram <https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto>