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Subject: [Leica] Learning Lightroom
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:17:26 -0500
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Here is what Adobe says:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/applying-adjustments-develop-module-basic.html

"You can make Develop module adjustments in any order, but a common
approach to using these panels is to start at the top and work down."

I knew I had read that somewhere.

Tina

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Aram <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From what I have read, it does not make difference what order you do things
> in LR.  LR itself will decide what order to apply them when you output the
> image.  Maybe a particular order helps you visualize what you have and
> where
> you are going, but if you did it in any other order the output would be the
> same.  This is of course not so in a destructive editor like Photoshop
> where
> order does matter.
>
> I treat workflow in the same way I coached pole vaulters.  They are all
> wacko with their superstitions.  Rock back and forth 3 times.  Take two
> skips.  Throw your head back, pick up the pole and run.  Wacko.  In other
> words, do what ever you think works and go for it.
>
> Aram
>
> PS.  Hope there are no pole vaulters on the list.
>
>
>
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
>
> ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself
> would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tina Manley
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:01 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Learning Lightroom
>
> I read that LR specifically ordered the adjustments from top to bottom in
> the order they should be applied. Have you found that to be true? I always
> work in order from top to bottom.
>
> Tina
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 7, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I personally think that the order in which you do the adjustments are
> > extremely important, as I found the results are quite different if the
> > workflow order changes,  and that is where other experienced
> > photographer's input is important. Again, so many adjustments/procedures
> > are hidden away that I found I needed a comprehensive tutorial which was
> > invaluable in uncovering them all. Of course, YMMV!
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 08-Jan-2017, at 03:40, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Experimenting works!  It is becoming more intuitive every day. :-)
> >>
> >> Jim Nichols
> >> Tullahoma, TN USA
> >>
> >>> On 1/7/2017 3:38 PM, Philippe wrote:
> >>> Jim, a tutorial may be helpful of course
> >>>
> >>> But trying and experimenting by yourself is probably the best way to go
> >>> as
> >>>
> >>> i.    LR is extremely intuitive
> >>>
> >>> ii    you may find other routes than the ? prescribed ? ones, and that
> >>> match your style, taste, etc better
> >>>
> >>> Plus, I DO believe we learn by mistakes, or am I mistaken on that too?
> >>>
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> AMities
> >>> Philippe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Le 7 janv. 2017 ? 21:58, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> a
> ?crit
> >>>> :
> >>>>
> >>>> I have those bookmarked, and have watched quite a few.  They are quite
> >>>> helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Nichols
> >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 1/7/2017 2:55 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>>> +1!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tina
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Gerry Walden <
> gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Adobe themselves do some very good free videos on the web site and
> >>>>>> YouTube, particularly those by Julianne Kost.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 7 Jan 2017, at 15:27, Howard L Ritter Jr <hlritter at twc.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Jayanand! I?ll check them out.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ?howard
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj
> >>>>>>>> <jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> STATUTORY WARNING: The really good ones require payment!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have used all these, at some point or the other. I subscribe
> >>>>>>>> annually
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> Scott Kelby's training site for a variety of stuff, not limited to
> >>>>>>>> Lightroom alone. He also has good instructional books on
> Lightroom:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Matt Kloskowski: http://mattk.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Andy Biggs:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.theglobalphotographer.com/the-
> global-photographer/2016/12/7/
> >>>>>> lightroom-simplified-my-video-series.html
> >>>>>>>> Scott Kelby: http://kelbyone.com/course-
> category/lightroom/?page=1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Victoria Bampton: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jason Odell (especially good for Nik tutorials):
> >>>>>>>> http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/eshop/guides-to-
> >>>>>> adobe-lightroom-photoshop/
> >>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr
> >>>>>>>> <hlritter at twc.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions for instructional books or
> videos
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> learning LR? Personal experiences appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ?howard
> >>>>>>>>>
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