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Subject: [Leica] ILFORD Pan 400
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 12:47:11 -0400
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I thought they were bought out by somebody but no they were not they are 
still around and founded in 1879.
Wikiing it we find:
Pan F plus 50 (extremely fine grain) 
FP4 plus 125
HP5 plus 400
Delta 100, 400, and 3200
XP2 Super 400
SFX 200
Ilford PAN 100 and 400 (consumer grade, on selected markets)

Those selected markets not being in the US of A but be being wherever you 
are.
I see them in a package with a hole at the top so it can be hung on a 
circular rotating rack with the UV filters.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford_Photo

email them a jpeg and they will print it on their darkroom Ilford paper
https://www.ilfordlab.com/

also
https://www.ilfordphoto.com/


 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 7/2/17, 8:14 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of dankhong 
at gmail.com> wrote:

    I am very sure because I am holding a box of 135 film which says ILFORD 
PAN
    400. In smaller print, "Harman technology Ltd Mobberley Cheshire UK".
    
    On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
wrote:
    
    > Sorry, I thought he meant Delta 400. I do not think that is any Ilford
    > film with ?Pan? it is name other than PanF.
    >
    > In any event, the Delta 400 is the best 400 film there is IMO. And the
    > Delta 100 is good too. For really high speed, I always preferred Fuji
    > Neopan 1600, though.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Nathan
    >
    > Nathan Wajsman
    > Alicante, Spain
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    >
    >
    > > On 02 Jul 2017, at 09:36, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
wrote:
    > >
    > > Personally I had never heard of this film, and an Internet search 
seems
    > to indicate it is an alternative version of HP5+, a film that I never 
liked
    > very much because of its large grain. It seems to be that Pan 400 is 
only
    > marketed in certain areas. I personally prefer T-grain films and in
    > particular the films made by Fuji. I have found their Neopan range,
    > including the 1600iso and the C-41 versions, very good and scan 
easily. As
    > always, these things are down to personal taste, and the Kodak T-Max 
range
    > and Tri-X have always been popular choices.
    > >
    > > Gerry
    > >
    > > Gerry Walden LRPS
    > > www.gwpics.com
    > > +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
    > > +44 (0)797 287 7932
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >> On 2 Jul 2017, at 07:55, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    > >>
    > >> There is or was Ilford Delta 400 a tab grain film which is great. 
And
    > Hp5 a more traditional film.
    > >> I always use tab grain films they are twice as sharp and twice as 
fine
    > grain as traditional films.
    > >> One of the few films I never has any luck with was HP5. IN any
    > developer dilution combination, I ever tried it with.
    > >> Delta 400 with Xtol 1:3 will make people think you are shooting a 
100
    > film or slower.
    > >> Tri x has been reformulated since I last used it. I last used it in
    > 1999 and the tab grain films ?Neopan 1600 and 400? put it to shame.
    > >> I?ll never use it again. Another reason is the cloying adulates it 
gets
    > on internet chat lists from people who couldn?t find themselves in or 
out
    > of a darkroom.?
    > >> It was invented in 1955. Way past the golden age of black and white
    > photography so if you want that don?t use Tri x.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >> Mark William Rabiner
    > >> Photographer
    > >>
    > >> On 7/2/17, 1:44 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong" <lug-bounces+mark=
    > rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of dankhong at 
gmail.com> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>   Folks
    > >>
    > >>   Has anyone got experience with this film? How does it compare to,
    > say, HP5
    > >>   and Tri-X?
    > >>
    > >>   Thanks.
    > >>
    > >>   Dan K.
    > >>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] ILFORD Pan 400)
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