Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/12/18

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: P&S Recommendation and focus lock
From: "Bud Cook" <budcook@ibm.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:26:12 -0600

No, I want a true P&S to go with my M and R Leicas.  I just want something
to stick in my pocket but it's got to have first class optics.  I'm very
familiar with the Rollei 35.

Bud Cook
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hickel <smhickel@x2.alliance.net>
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: P&S Recommendation and focus lock


>Someone said the the Rollei 35 is not a P&S. But the original poster of
>this thread might want to ask themself, do they want a point and shoot or
>just a smaller, high quality camera, making the Rollei 35 a better choice?
>
>
>Steve
>
>At 12:16 AM 12/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>The Contax T VS can be set either way -- focus on pre-push or focus on
push.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>At 09:57 PM 12/17/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>Jeff Moore wrote:
>>>>>> I continue to think that the T2 remains the most physically appealing
>>>package
>>>>>> among the point-and-shoots, even after Nikon, Leica and Minolta have
>>taken
>>>>> >their best shots at the market Kyocera created with the T2... BUT, in
>>>addition
>>>>> >to a few minor nits, the T2 has one possibly-fatal flaw which
>>>constitutes the
>>>>>> reason I hardly use mine anymore:  the T2, in common with all the
>>"cheap"
>>>>>> point-and-shoots of which I'm aware, locks focus electronically with
a
>>>>> >half-press of the shutter button but doesn't physically drive the
lens
>>>into
>>>>> >position until you commit to taking the picture.  This introduces a
>>>small but
>>>>> >completely infuriating delay which allows the world to change out
from
>>>under
>>>>>> you while the camera's trying to get around to taking the picture.
>>>>
>>>>>This is something I find very annoying about this type of camera too.
I
>>>used
>>>>>a Yashica T4 for a while and the lens is indeed quite good, but the
delay
>>>between
>>>>>pressing the shutter and the camera getting round to taking the shot
>>>after moving
>>>>>the lens into position was a killer for me.
>>>>
>>>>I experienced the same problem with the Nikon 35Ti I borrowed recently.
>>>>The problem is especially frustrating in light of the "mission" for
which
>>>>cameras of this type are designed.  If I want to do serious
>>>>work, I will use my "first string" equipment.  I save P&S cameras for
>>>>impromptu people snaps.  For the "moment" to pass while the camera
>>>>selects focus is intolerable given the price of these titanium marvels.
>>>>
>>>>Aside from this problem, I found the 35Ti to be a pleasing package.  The
>>>>lens was sharp and I liked the camera's retro styling.
>>>>
>>>>Paul Walsen
>>>>
>>>I realize the Contax G-1 isn't a P&S, but I sold mine almost as soon as I
>>>had bought it for the same reason.  Each time you shoot it moves the lens
>>>only after you press the shutter all the way.  And then as soon as the
shot
>>>is taken it resets it back, so that even if your subject-camera distance
>>>doesn't change, the camera is constantly moving the lens in and out.  For
>>>someone used to the M shutter release the delay is intollerable.  The
salt
>>>in the wound was that the G-1 focusing is very noisy to boot.
>>>
>>>I understand the G-2 is "better," but still works basically the same way.
>>>If anyone knows of a good P&S that actually moves the lens at focus lock
>>>time, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks.
>>>
>>>Van Barletta
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>