Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/10/28

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Subject: [Leica] M6 HM Serial Numbers: Last Posting
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:06:04 -0800

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I have delayed sending this list because of the new data that came in the
last 3 weeks.
We now know that the M6HM is a discontinued product, replaced with a taller
version with TTL Flash capability.
Was it a success?  They sold out, so I guess the answer is yes.

I will keep this list updated about once per year as I get S/N from cameras
I see on the used market, or that you send to me.

My thanks to you all for your patience with a "collector" issue and
consideration in sending this data.  Without you, this is would have been
impossible.

S/N To Date:10/28/98
This is a list of all reported M6HM (0.85) Serial numbers by LUG members.
The list is hardly complete but should be used as a guide.
The notation of US or Canada etc. is the country the camera was purchased
in.

Standard Engraving  as engraved on the back of the camera
Line 1   "LEICA CAMERA"
Lne 2 "MADE IN GERMANY"

1,917,990  Europe

2,296,539  Hong Kong

1600-2000 Units…..starting with
2,414,454  US Standard Engraving
2,414,629  Canada Standard Engraving
2,414,835  Canada Standard Engraving
2,414,849  Asia Standard Engraving
continuing
2,415,034  US Standard Engraving
2,415,207  US Standard Engraving
2,415,252  US
2.415,277  US  Standard Engraving
2,415,322  US
2,415,337  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,388  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,483  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,570  US Standard Engraving
2,415,617  US Standard Engraving
2,415,628  US Standard Engraving
2,415,729 US Standard Engraving
2,415,868  US Standard Engraving
2,415,922  US Standard Engraving
2,415,946  Europe
2,415,974  US Standard Engraving
break in numbers

2000 units starting with
2,423,040  US
2,423,068  Europe engraved LEICA CAMERA only
2,423,084  US  Engraving on back says: "LEICA CAMERA GMBH"
                            underneath  this, "Made in GERMANY"
2,423,097  US Engraving same as #084
2.423.237  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,423,247  US Standard Engraving
2,423,248  Europe
2,423,249  Europe, Standard Engraving.
2,423,255  Canada Standard Engraving
2,423,271  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,423,308  US Standard Engraving
2,423,327  US Standard Engraving
2,423,398  Canada Standard Engraving
2,423,399  US Standard Engraving
2,423,408  US Standard Engraving
2,423,425  US Standard Engraving
2,423,476  Hong Kong Standard Engraving
2,423,533  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,574  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,582  US Standard Engraving
2,423,592 Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,664  US Standard Engraving
2,423,733  US Standard Engraving

2,424,176  US Standard Engraving
2,424,275  US Standard Engraving
2,424,331  US Standard Engraving
2,424,471  US Standard Engraving
2,424,475
2,424,512  US Standard Engraving
2,424,376  US Standard Engraving
2,424,500  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,424,647  US Standard Engraving
2,424,702  US Standard Engraving
2,424,927  US Standard Engraving
break in numbers

1000 Units starting with
2,431,315 US Standard Engraving
2,431,765  US Standard Engraving
break in numbers

500 numbers missing here for the beginning of this sequence
There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,432,000 and 2,432,499

1500 Units beginning with
2,432,500 US Standard Engraving
2,432,692 US Standard Engraving
continuing
2,433,145 US Standard Engraving
2,433,155  US Standard Engraving
2,433,221  HK Standard Engraving
2,433,222  US Standard Engraving
2,433,650  UK Standard Engraving

Possibly 1000 more.  These were sold in late 1998, and I have very little
info to make logical guesses as to the range or number made.  They could be
made from the last production run parts and represent a small, last run of
as few as 200.
2,463,935 US Standard Engraving
2,463,944 US Standard Engraving
2,464,003 US Standard Engraving
2,464,026 US Standard Engraving
2,464,030 US Standard Engraving
2,464,090 US Standard Engraving


If you see your camera listed with an incorrect S/N .... like I bungled a
few digits..... please email me
Note: Capitalization is as printed on the camera
A copy of these numbers is archived at Stephen Gandy's site:
http://www.cameraquest.com/


Conclusions ( My opinion):
Leica produces cameras in production batches ( maybe I should say they
produce serial numbers in batches).  You may find this expected, but it was
a good for me to get some hard data on the issue.
There were pre-production units that went to Canada and Asia.   Maybe
elsewhere.  S/N were random.  Theses are most likely modified M6 bodies.
There were 5 production runs of  1,600, and 2,000 and 1,000 and 1,000 units,
and the last run of cameras, starting near 2,464,000 of maybe 100-1000
cameras.
My estimate is that less than 7,000 total were made.  My low estimate is
4,700 total.
They substituted older style covers for a total of less than 100 units.
 S/N 2,423,084 - 2,423,097 maybe others).  Theses are exceedingly rare
units..


Thank You.
My the Light be with you.
Long Live Leica M Cameras!

Frank Filippone
red735I@earthlink.net

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